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I have been told by many that the easiest pass to master is the invisible, Please can you guide me where im going wrong.

Cheers

No pass is invisible, you will soon get this, and if you don't then you should. As for the easiest, that all depends on you, how much you practice, your hand size, ect. You'll just need to practice and find out for yourself.

What do you mean by "easy". Easy as in easy to do the moves? or Easy as in, easy to do smoothly.

Because from I can tell you, the Pass and really it's not called "The Invisible" Pass, it's just a good smooth Classic Pass, Is not an easy move to get to make look good. The first piece of advice I am going to give you is this. Don't worry about the SPEED of the move right away, just work on getting it down SMOOTHLY and SLOWLY and also record your practice sessions to see where you are flashing.

If you're looking for an 'easy' pass, have a look at the Simplified pass in Tarbell. I'm still working on my classic pass, it is a difficult move and takes a lot of practise to just get the technique right. Keep practising I guess. The second pass you perform in the video is quite good. Try not to make the action of obtaining a break, by bending the card as you push it flush, too blatant though.

Good luck!

Thanks guys appreciated.

i use the classic pass all the time, i've said elsewhere on here that its my favourite sleight to do. My advice is just practice practice practice. When i was learning it i would pretty much practice all day, just absently doing it while walking to uni, while watching tv etc. If you do this you'll pick it up pretty quickly. The key is to make it smooth and, like randy said, dont try and do it fast at first, that will come naturally as you keep at it. Then you need to learn the time to use it, if the spec is staring at the deck you arent gonna get away with it, so keep pattering, at some point they WILL look away, even if its only for half a second, then you're home and dry. And to be fair, i've c*cked up the timing a couple of times and people saw me do it and said 'something happened there', the thing is that it happens so fast that they can't work out what ACTUALLY happened, so in their eyes you've just pulled off a beast of a sleight and think you are really dextrous etc etc. I certainly didnt come out of the situation badly.

magicarp wrote: Then you need to learn the time to use it, if the spec is staring at the deck you arent gonna get away with it, so keep pattering, at some point they WILL look away, even if its only for half a second, then you're home and dry.

LIKE

So true.
My pass is c*** (not the best), but no one ever sees it because they're not looking.

Can you advise the situation in which you need to be able to do a pass while constantly having your hands burned by specs eyes? If not, then misdirection and even just a sloppy old cut is your friend.

...Where's Lee Smith?

Lawrence wrote:...Where's Lee Smith?

Yes!!

Lee has a lovely, concise pass tutorial on his Step System DVD's - well worth the price of admission

Rob wrote:

Lawrence wrote:...Where's Lee Smith?

Yes!!


Lee has a lovely, concise pass tutorial on his Step System DVD's - well worth the price of admission

Here I am

If you need to do the pass either do it as you square the cards or as you make a movement of of some kind. You will find it really does not matter as long you keep the patter going.

I posted a video earlier but have taken it down as I have a better one I will dig out.

I use the riffle pass as it fits my style of playing the the deck as I work. I have a lovely new concept with the pass that I mention in my lecture. It means the spectator can push in the selection in themselves after the move is complete and they believe it is their card. I think this add a lot to the move.

Lee.

Here's what should happen (depending on your personality and style.).

Spectator puts card in middle of deck.
You make a witty joke/remark
Spectator makes eye contact with you for a second or two.
In that Instant that they look at you, you're hands come together and you do the move.
Then you gesture with the deck in your hand. etc etc.

I recall reading in Revelation that Dai Vernon mentioned that the shift isn't a HARD to do, what is hard about it is the moment. If you use it how I described it SHOULD help you with a bad sleight. I think the same thing can be done with just about any sleight. A TC, DL, side steal, etc etc.

I use the classic pass a lot as a form of card control and always talk to the spec and misdirect them for the brief moment I'm executing the move. The turnover pass is one that can be performed with the specs eyes burning the deck and it's used in an effect in the Stars of Magic book called Pumphouse Aces or something like that where the black aces are placed in the middle of the deck and the red ones are on the top & bottom. The transpose a number of times. There's also a variation of this on Bill Malone's On The Loose DVDs.

Lawrence wrote:...Where's Lee Smith?

I was thinking the exact same thing! I was watching Lee do the pass somewhere the other day and had to rewind and replay several times and still can't see anything! Might have been one of his effects from iCandy.

Didn't know he had a tutorial available... hmmmm

Rob wrote:Yes!!
Lee has a lovely, concise pass tutorial on his Step System DVD's - well worth the price of admission

Just took delivery of this dvd on Saturday Rob.
I agree the pass tutorial is well worth the price of the admission.

CArl...

The thing is with tutorials, at least I've found, is that they are pretty much the same as books. If you know the basic action and the purpose of the move, etc., then the dvds explain exactly the stuff that is written in the books. So while people like Richard Kaufmann and Jason England can perform the pass really well, there isn't a 'secret' to it - it's the same technique described hundreds of time in Royal Road, Tarbell, Expert at the Card Table, Modern Magic, etc. I guess it's just practise really. I'm not discouraging people from getting dvds and stuff on the pass, but it's maybe worth bearing in mind. You might be disappointed if you think studying from a dvd is suddenly going to make your pass brilliant, to find that what you've just spend £20 on is just a repeat of what you've probably already read about.

CArlight1958 wrote:

Rob wrote:Yes!!
Lee has a lovely, concise pass tutorial on his Step System DVD's - well worth the price of admission

Just took delivery of this dvd on Saturday Rob.
I agree the pass tutorial is well worth the price of the admission.

CArl...

I actually forgot about that. I have not seen them for a while. Glad you found of use. I learnt the move from the on the pass DVD by Richard Kauffman and changed a few bits to suit my style over the year.