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Hello all,

hope you are well?

I'm looking for an interesting card effect that starts with the deck split into reds and blacks. (Not including out of this world)

I've strung together a couple of effects, 1 of which is out of this world, after out of this world i give the cards to spectators to shuffle, i do a routine that involves a lot of mixing but secretly ends with the deck split into reds and blacks.

in method i think that leaves me a step ahead of the presentation, and i feel like i should be able to take advantage of this condition.

the previous effects are all either mentalism with cards or test condition type card locations. so I'm looking for a particularly strong effect to finish the act.

any suggestions of effects starting from the red black split position would be greatly appreciated,

thanks,

Sam

Well if you want an easy way of having a shuffled deck return to a split coloured pack, why not just perform a deck swap, or how about performing Lennart Green's Angle Seperation. They're not tricks but would do the job.

IIRC, 'The Vegas Shuffle' from Darwin Ortiz (At the Card Table book/ DVD) meets your requirements. The three phase effect is one of crooked shuffling, with the deck separated red/ black to 'make things easier' for the specs to follow. Requres a decent Zarrow or strip-out/ pull through shuffle.

hds02115 wrote:Well if you want an easy way of having a shuffled deck return to a split coloured pack, why not just perform a deck swap, or how about performing Lennart Green's Angle Seperation. They're not tricks but would do the job.

I think you've missed the point there. He performs OOTW, his next effect returns them to a red and black split and now he needs something that begins with a red black split.

thats correct mrz0mbie, I'm looking for something that starts from red black split.
i don't mind stopping the routine after the 3rd trick, but secretly getting into a red black split position (in fact the spectators unknowingly do this for me...) seems like it could be the perfect lead in to a 4th effect.

SpareJoker - you are correct about it starting from a red black separated deck, however I'm hoping to secretly make use of the split deck. if the spectators learn that the colours are separated at the end of the 3rd effect then it will make the method fairly obvious. however since the cards were thoroughly shuffled and mixed by the audience and by me during the 3rd trick, and then the spectators do all of the face down dealing which will separate the cards, no one should suspect the split colours.
in this instance it would be better to start the vegas shuffle with the cards already mixed together so that the method to the previous trick isn't tipped.
thanks for the advice though, it is a lovely routine, I'm a big fan of Darwin's, i really enjoy his writing, and often read his books the same way i would read a novel, i've still not been able to find a copy of 'at the card table' though, at least not one that i could afford at the time!

Ah, right. My bad (didn't realise you wanted the split kept secret!).

I think that one of the potential dangers of stack-work is getting over-precious about preserving the stack. Make sure that as you construct your act that you are not going too far bending over backwards to accomodate a stack. I've seen this with workers who use a memorised stack as part of an act. After the stack is rung in, too many of the subsequent routines rely on the stack. Rather that just doing one powerful stack routine, then destroying the stack and moving on, they spent too much time trying justify preserving the stack.

I'm not saying that all stack-work suffers from this pitfall, but I believe it's something to be aware of nonetheless.

i appreciate your advice, however for a while i've been performing this and just ending after the 3rd effect. however I'm looking to extend it with a final 4th effect. and i feel that since i've secretly got myself into this position i should be able to make good use of it.
i personally think that there must be a great card effect that relies on having the cards split by colour (other than out of this world), if i can't find one at all (let alone one that fits with the rest of the act) then i'll certainly look elsewhere,

I'm sure i've read tricks with this set up at the start. but the problem is that books dont tend to index by set up!