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advanced Svengali deck effects

Postby oscarius4 » Feb 6th, '12, 18:20



Hey, was just wondering if anybody knows any advanced effects you can create using the Svengali deck or ways of incorporating it into any other tricks.

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Re: advanced Svengali deck effects

Postby Rob » Feb 6th, '12, 19:08

Some reading for you :wink: :

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...And a varient - ftopic5091.php

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Re: advanced Svengali deck effects

Postby FTHO » Feb 6th, '12, 20:17

i heard an interesting way of setting up a svengali deck. you use a normal deck, but have 26 short cards hidden in pocket, switch half the normal cards for the 26 short cards, then faro them together...
you have just made a svengali deck in front of the audience, with the cards they previously shuffled and inspected.
as for interesting effects, i dont use a svengali deck so i cant help. but i liked the faro idea above when i first heard it.

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Re: advanced Svengali deck effects

Postby Mandrake » Feb 6th, '12, 20:49

I'm sure Mark Lewis will be along shortly.. ( geddit - shortly.. ... oh please yerselves)

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Re: advanced Svengali deck effects

Postby mark lewis » Feb 7th, '12, 03:40

Here is my routine with the deck:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lgB123C4q0

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Re: advanced Svengali deck effects

Postby Rob » Feb 7th, '12, 10:15

...And here is Grandmaster Lewis' lovely book on the subject (which I'm surprised he failed to mention :wink: ):

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Whilst I don't usually stroke egos of such a size, I really do have to say that TLATSOI is - honest-to-God - the best routine for the Sven deck I've yet come across. :D

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Re: advanced Svengali deck effects

Postby magicofthemind » Feb 7th, '12, 12:33

There's a chapter in Hugard's "Encyclopaedia of Card Tricks".

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Re: advanced Svengali deck effects

Postby Allen Tipton » Feb 7th, '12, 12:46

Undoubtedly Mark Lewis's Svengali Routine is the greatest ever--nearly a complete Act.

His book, 'The Long & The Short of It ' is a must. I bought 2 copies.

and his other books

1.The Wit & Wisdom of Mark Lewis --covering everything from the Svengali Pitch to Hecklers to Nervousness to the 6 Card Repeat and even the Bongo Hat etc. etc. is a
great and very useful read--all from many years of practical experience & sheer hard graft.

2. Marmaduke The Wonder Mouse deals thoroughly with the little magic mouse', that crawls over your hand & even rolls over and over plus the squiggly thing
This street vendor's legendary trick will fit in your Close Up, Walk About and Children's work. Get it now

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Re: advanced Svengali deck effects

Postby mark lewis » Feb 7th, '12, 15:05

My main innovation with the Wonder Mouse is to introduce the Spooky Pencil trick which is actually a pitch item all by itself. Johnny Neptune made quite a feature out of it. But as for books I am not sure if Allan has all of them. He hasn't mentioned "The Lives of a Showman" which just recently got reviewed in Magic Magazine. I believe that one day that particular book will be out on public sale sooner or later. Barrie Richardson phoned me out of the blue and said it was too good for magicians only and would make a good movie.

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Re: advanced Svengali deck effects

Postby Allen Tipton » Feb 7th, '12, 16:15

No Mark I have not yet seen 'The Lives Of A Showman'.
Didn't want to mention the Spooky Pencil as this post was about Svengali and I just slipped the Wonderful Wonder Mouse into it!

The brilliance of the Mark Lewis Svengali Routine is just that--It IS a complete routine.
Not just one trick or several tricks, one after another. A Routine.

So many magicians & laymen buy a Svengali Deck--try one perhaps two tricks with it then get stuck.
The ML Routine FLOWS from one sequence to the next and that only comes from many years of performing the Deck under many varied conditions.
With a lot of thought, effort and rehearsal too of course.

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Re: advanced Svengali deck effects

Postby DrTodd » Feb 8th, '12, 07:54

mark lewis wrote:Here is my routine with the deck:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lgB123C4q0" target="_blank


Loved it!

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Re: advanced Svengali deck effects

Postby Reverend Tristan » Feb 8th, '12, 13:09

Andy Nyman has a nice routine on his get Nyman DVD which is the reason I bought a Sven deck I have taken it and changed it into something which I love :D

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Re: advanced Svengali deck effects

Postby mark lewis » Feb 8th, '12, 14:23

Reverend Tristan wrote:Andy Nyman has a nice routine on his get Nyman DVD which is the reason I bought a Sven deck I have taken it and changed it into something which I love :D


Yes. I may have had some influence on that. Andy Nyman was in Toronto recently and purchased my "The Lives of a Showman" book from a local magic shop. He told the shop owner that he remembered me from the time I went into Hamleys and trained the demonstraters there for Marvin Berglas. I focused on the svengali deck. Possibly some of my routine rubbed off on him. I can't say for sure since I have never seen him do it. I do know he loved my book though and as a result I consider him a sterling fellow. Alas I don't remember him when I went into Hamleys. There were a number of Marvin employees there and I don't remember them individually.

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Re: advanced Svengali deck effects

Postby bmat » Feb 8th, '12, 19:09

Excuse my ignorance but why on earth would somebody want an 'advanced' svenagli deck routine. Wouldn't one rather have a routine that works? just because it is 'advanced' does not mean it is any good. How about working out a routine that works for you? I'm sure you will find some of the 'retareded' ones will absolutly astound your audience.

There is so much you can do with the Svenagli and you know I've sold hundreds of them myself and I sold them using the routine that comes in the instructions.

True, my hundreds don't compare to Mark's thousands. But Mark has been around a lot longer than I, and I've been in this biz since 1974. Yes I was 9.

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Re: advanced Svengali deck effects

Postby mark lewis » Feb 8th, '12, 19:30

Yes. At times I have sold hundreds in ONE day! The best I ever did was 478 decks in one day. In the old days 100, 200, 300 and even 400 decks a day were fairly common. I haven't worked for a while but I think nowadays sales would be far less.

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