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Stephen Ward wrote:No that was during the seance and is a different force

Ah, I stand corrected... well, sit corrected actually.....

I bought some forcing luggage labels a while ago from eddie burke at mr e enterprises which would be perfect for this. Im sorry but i can seem to find them on his site, feel free to look under mentalism and scroll through the descriptions, theres a goldmine of stuff at very good prices.

I believe that these may be the very labels of which you are referring. http://www.mreenterprises.co.uk/viewproduct.php?id=498

Mr Burke's store really is an amazing treasure trove or all manner of magical artefacts and often the prices are cheaper than 15 minutes with an East End whore. I'd throughly recommend anything from there and Mr E's customer service is always top rate.

Stephen Ward wrote:

Mandrake wrote:

Magus wrote:I seem to remember Derren Brown doing a photograph force with 12 photos. They were a mixture of colour and black and white photos and were laid out in a grid.

Yes, as he said at the time, it was absolutely out of this world.

No that was during the seance and is a different force

That was the one Stephen. the force was done on several people at once.

Dr Percival RP Pound wrote:I believe that these may be the very labels of which you are referring. http://www.mreenterprises.co.uk/viewproduct.php?id=498" target="_blank

Mr Burke's store really is an amazing treasure trove or all manner of magical artefacts and often the prices are cheaper than 15 minutes with an East End whore. I'd throughly recommend anything from there and Mr E's customer service is always top rate.

thats 'em

ingenious method and a top heritage by the description provided.

if your a magician then I would say your stuck- that is no equivoque technique is clean, but if your an amateur mentalist- pm me

But if your a committed amateur mentalist sick of tricks but want to STUDY (studying is the ONLY way to become a mentalist to the point your basically a psychologist) I would recommend Sleight of mind by Martin nyrup and Ian harling.

But if your a committed amateur mentalist sick of tricks but want to STUDY (studying is the ONLY way to become a mentalist to the point your basically a psychologist)

And do understand that striving to be yet another Psychological Magician means you are following a trend rather than standing out from the pack in a way that makes you "unique" enough to be worthy of decent pay. This is simple business logic; when the supply for something is abundant it's value declines in that the consumer wants what isn't common place and more unusual.

Yes, this is a pet peeve of mine in that I get quite bent when it comes to the promotion of only one style of mentalism when in fact there are two primary modes of performance or "philosophy" as it were. My suggestion being that you learn to question why there's been so much put out on this "Psychological/faux NLP" approach since the late 1990s vs. how Mentalism was being approached prior to said point and more so, prior to the mid-1970s.

While all things evolve, there are times when the supposed evolution exist solely to obfuscate and detour the neophyte's vision and understanding of the greater picture.

I have to be in full agreement with Craig, every mentalist seems to want to be a master of psychology these days. To me, that's a jooly great shame. There is so much that can be done with mentalism outside of the psychological that I've never comprehended why people dont try to be creative with it and find something new. The master he may be, but Derren isn't the last word in mentralism. Rather than copy him, why not be something new and unique?

Dr Percival RP Pound wrote:I have to be in full agreement with Craig, every mentalist seems to want to be a master of psychology these days. To me, that's a jooly great shame. There is so much that can be done with mentalism outside of the psychological that I've never comprehended why people dont try to be creative with it and find something new. The master he may be, but Derren isn't the last word in mentralism. Rather than copy him, why not be something new and unique?

I guess I was just speaking of my own limitations. I apologize, I shouldn't have assume that I know your style or that mine is special enough to recommend.

Plus, I should've been more suspicious about this question, than helpful. I guess I was just trying to look like I know more.

P.S So sorry for replying late. I don't come on here much but I'm trying. I'm starting to have procrastination dreams (lol)