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Oh yeah!

After watching Oz's demo of Curry's "out of this world," for the 500th time I got it! It just clicked all of the sudden, like a strange eureka moment.

I just got finished performing it for my girlfriends sisters and man I like that trick. I have them believing that they are total psychics. Can anyone PM with some variations on this trick? I know there are some out there.

Thanks a bunch

could you post a demo so that we can all watch it for 499 times and still be confused?

Here is a link to the vids on penguin

Windows Media
http://media.penguinmagic.com/movies/products/2093a.wmv

The Effect Page
http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=659#

now, don't laugh at me when you watch it once and get it

I have watched it only about 50 times, and have the basic idea down, but don't have the fine points of the handling...

Kati

Well so long as it wasn't a one time go then my ego can sleep sound. What do you think?

In my opinion it is an impressive trick, but a bit long. I think a shorter version would be... hmmm more transparent.

I agree totally. I have never performed it for the simple reason that the climax, although it is good, is expected the whole way through the trick, and requires a looooooong time to get to.

Fortunately, there is an effect called Dowsing, by Sankey, which is completely impromptu.

Unfortunately, it is only available as a bonus effect with the purchase of the Three Ring Circus DVD - which is worth it for the bonuses but not for the main effect, IMHO.

Anyway, the basic idea is that the spectator touches several cards with a red 'dowsing rod' (card) and several with a black one. Then these cards are shown to be the correct colours.

It's a great effect, and I'd use it if I could do the necessary sleight (which I don't want to name because that would tell you how the trick was done).

Kati

I think I might be able to conceive of an appropriate sleight for that trick.

Can anyone PM with some variations on this trick? I know there are some out there

Have you seen Derren Browns version of ootw with the undertaker and the photos of dead people and alive people. The undertaker makes two piles of photos. One pile for which he gets a positive feel, the other for a negative feel/none at all. When they are are turned over, one pile of photos has dead written on the back, the other has alive. ANd there is no need to swap your marker cards.
THis is the nicest handling of the effect I've seen, with an unexpected and creepy finish. It gave me a lesson on how you can make the presentation of a trick 1000% better with a bit of thought. THere are so many possibilities when you put your mind to it.

Yup. Derren Browns OOTW is by far the best I've seen... It was my first (serious) trick I did as a youngster having seen it on Paul Daniels... A stripper deck was my chief weapon, a stripper deck and misdirection - my TWO chief weapons.... (AARGH NOT THE SPANISH INQUISITION!!)

IMHO The downfall with the 'normal' OOTW is always the switch of the markers - I've never found a suitably convincing reason to swap them. Derren's version removes the need, and makes for a VERY clean finish...

Does anyone else have a convincing reason to swap markers?

you have at your finger tips the most powerfull card effect there is. Why on earth would you want to confuse yourself with a variation? stick to the original.

you have at your finger tips the most powerfull card effect there is. Why on earth would you want to confuse yourself with a variation? stick to the original.

Like already mentioned, even though the final reveal is amazing, you have made no secret that that was what you were working towards. other variations i.e derren browns, makes the ending more unexpected, and effects the emotions at a deeper level.
Don't misunderstand me, the original is fantastic, but the change of makes it a bit too messy for my liking. Even when I do it with cards, i don't bother with extra marker cards. Just two separate piles.

When I switch the marker, I just do it without them seeing, as they are squaring their pile. Then when they look up, I say "now turn you pile over, and flip that last upside-down card over like I have."

No one thinks twice they just see that I am holding a packet of cards face up, and assume it is because I have flipped the last upside-down card over in place.

So far that has worked great.

Guys (not all of you, but you'll know who I mean when you read the rest of the post that I'm about to get on with as soon as I've found the 'close bracket' to put somewhere... here),

Don't forget that the demo vid on penguinmagic is simply just one (and some would say poor) take on a card trick.

I think (correct me if I'm wrong any mages more knowledgeable than me), this effect is credited to Paul Curry, and can be found in his book Magician's Magic (I know this much because I have it right here!).

Those of you that have simply watched the penguin video - BUY PAUL CURRYS BOOK.

It makes the whole thing stronger, it makes the outcome a whole lot less possible, and, at the end of the day, it fooled Winston Churchill.

A Review is available - http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/viewtopic.php?p=17519#17519

OOTW is a very powerfull effect and should only be used with the right audience.

There are numerous versions of this effect, Curry's original version involved a set up deck but subsequent versions were able to do the effect with a normal deck. Even borrowed and untouched.

Churchill did indeed watch Curry perform OOTW and was so impressed that he asked him to perform it numerous times which made him late for a War Cabinet meeting. This also suggests that it is likely that Curry performed the version not requiring the set up deck, unless he kept excusing himself to go to the toilet !!

It has been suggested that the effect is performed originally with a set up deck and then subsequently with the other option not requiring a set up deck. I say repeating the effect because anyone who knows this effect will agree that you ALWAYS get asked to repeat OOTW.

As regards Andy's mention of switching the markers, there are easy ways of covering this without arrising suspicion.

Also, with either of the above versions you can dictate how many cards are used and therefore control the length of performance. There is no need to use the whole pack, in fact, I very rarely do. Except where someone really does believe the mind reading lark and are totally sucked in, then doing the whole deck can really strengthen the effect.

Hope this helps.

PS. I usually start this effect by explaining that I need someone whose mind is syncronised to mine. I go round a number of women (women are always better), holding up one card and asking them to think of what it might be while I try to pass on that information to them. You can usually judge fairly easy who will be a good person to perform this effect with.

PPS. With reference to the length of the effect. I begin by asking the spectator to judge whether a card is red or black, but after a few cards I suggest making the effect harder for them by picking two or three cards from the pack (which I state are the same colour) and asking them to choose red or black. Its surprising how quick this can get you through the deck !!