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Mr_Grue wrote:Certainly manipulation acts present themselves as masters of sleight of hand first and foremost (unless we assume that the audience believes in real magic, of course).
Mr_Grue wrote:The impossibility is a factor, to be sure, but it's not the only factor and, I suspect, not even the most important factor. One of the most powerful things you can do with a deck of cards is Out Of This World, the successful outcome of which is astronomically improbable, but not impossible. I'm currently obsessing over the Open Prediction, which done well is very powerful, but is only 1 in 52. Russian Roulette is one in six. There's no hard science on the power of an effect, but it's an interesting question to ask - what is it about any particular effect that you find powerful? What are those other factors?
Part-Timer wrote:So, my suggestion is to anticipate likely solutions audiences might come up with and exploit that knowledge. Easier said than done, though. The plain-backed cards are one solution to the problem of people suspecting marks, but what is to stop people thinking of that episode of Mission: Impossible, where they had these contact lenses that let them read the marks in "invisible" paint? (This is actually not quite as crazy an idea as you might think...) Another solution is simply to place yourself in a situation where you cannot possibly see any marks there might be.
Mr_Grue wrote:The impossibility is a factor, to be sure, but it's not the only factor and, I suspect, not even the most important factor.
SpareJoker wrote: If the effect is not 'impossible' and/ or does not violate the laws of nature, how is it 'magic' (naturally, 'impossible' is a sliding-scale, at least emotionally)?
SpareJoker wrote:Mr_Grue wrote:The impossibility is a factor, to be sure, but it's not the only factor and, I suspect, not even the most important factor.
I strongly disagree. Impossibility is everything. If the effect is not 'impossible' and/ or does not violate the laws of nature, how is it 'magic' (naturally, 'impossible' is a sliding-scale, at least emotionally)?
Mr_Grue wrote:SpareJoker wrote:Mr_Grue wrote:The impossibility is a factor, to be sure, but it's not the only factor and, I suspect, not even the most important factor.
I strongly disagree. Impossibility is everything. If the effect is not 'impossible' and/ or does not violate the laws of nature, how is it 'magic' (naturally, 'impossible' is a sliding-scale, at least emotionally)?
I suspect this is a philosophical difference about the nature of our humble deceit, or at least the differences between mentalism and magic. I shall re-read the too perfect theory and get back to you!
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