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my brother recently went thru my magic and told all my family how i do ALL my tricks now my nan has just come round and my mum kept saying show her your tricks! so i showed her the hummer card and she was shocked then my mum tells her in great detail how i did it! do people not realise that magic is soposed to be the "unknown" otherwise its not magic! i could kill my brother! i just rang him and had a go at him so he said if people want to know how to do it then he will tell them so he looks good! what a "u know what"!!!!

Wow, i suggest you edit that before the mods do matey.

But yeah i do get fustrated with people like that, learn several new effects with just a deck of cards and then wow him and he'll be stuck for words.

Just a weeny bit of editing, OK?!

Sadly there are people who get kicks out of spoiling things for others and just because they're family doesn't mean they won't do it! Next time you see your bro, how about you give him a normal deck of cards then sit down with your arms folded and a nice big smile on your face and ask him to get on with doing some magic for everyone? And whatever the aggro, don't do any magic yourself, just prolong the embarrassment as much as you can without war breaking out. If he has any friends, how about you pick the right moment and tell them quite clearly that your bro has a deep interest in magic and they should ask him to do a few magical mysteries for them and they should not take no for an answer? You might also want to invest in a decent padlock for your box of tricks!

i would but im new to magic (2 months) and i cant do any yet. all my tricks are gimmicked tricks i am trying though im going to get a dvd soon!

Ah, even better reason to suggest he does the biz with real cards!

Take no notice, this is what brothers are all about and one day he'll regret doing it. Just wait until he wants to borrow a fiver until the end of the month or something and you can extract your sweet revenge with a polite 'No way'!

very true he is always trying to ponce money off me! this really infuriates me though as if everyone was like that we wouldnt have this great art i tried telling him this but sadly some people just want to ruin it.

Hi rvoice

You really should keep your magic under lock and key to prevent this from happening, particularly if you're going to start buying some DVD's as he'll watch these on the first opportunity that he gets.

I'd say that it's not too bad as you've said that you're only 2 months into learning so you've already learned a good lesson early on. You have plenty of time ahead of you to work out your revenge and I'm sure that you will find a few tricks that you can use to set him up.

You should try tricks which actually trick people if you get what I mean. e.g. Paul Zenon's (I think that's his name) 100 ways to win a tenner should be quite good to win some money off of him.

It is true. It is the same with my brother but he wasn't as bad as your's. My brother saw me do the hummer card and once he figured it out (after scrummaging through everything), I was performing to my friend and he tells him how I do it before I even started!!!

Next time, hide your stuff well.

StEvEbO!

I'll let you in on a little move I've been tinkering with for use in these kinds of situations- The Dean Sexton Five Star Flourish.

Effect- The spectator is permanently discouraged from rifling through your magic related stuff.

Difficulty- 2: one sleight is required, but it is quite easy to master.

Method-
1)Hold a deck of cards in the dealer's grip, with the index finger curled round the end.
2)Ask the spectator (your brother) to think of a card, and concentrate on it.
3) Punch him in the mouth. Quite hard.

As with all tricks, the timing is important in performing this sleight. You may want to practice in front of a mirror, or try it out on a friend before integrating it into your regular routine.

You're welcome.




(Disclaimer- No relatives were harmed in the making of this trick. Dean Sexton does not condone actual use of violence. Unless they really deserve it)

ha ha sounds like a good "illusion" i might just trey it thanks lol

Unless you want to pay for a new mirror don’t do it in the mirror. May I suggest putting your equipment someone where that’s less open to him. If you avoid it in the first place it may not happen.

I had a similar problem when I was a young whipper-snapper. It was because I only had my family to perform for. I solved it by forming a magic club with friends (no family!) who also wanted to be magicians. Then we could talk openly and practice our magic on each other. We had a club rule that no magic member could give away the secret of any other member, or touch another member's props without permission. Breaking this rule meant being suspended or expelled from the club.

When a club member came to another magician's show (whether the magician was a member of our club or not), the club member could not reveal his secrets either. However, he was free to watch and even take notes to learn secrets himself if he could.

We taught our club members to respond to requests for telling an outsider a secret in this way:

Them: "How did you do that?"

You: "Very well, thank you."

Them (not giving up): "No, really! Tell me how you did it!"

You: "Can you keep a secret?"

Them (falling for your trap): "Sure!"

You: "Well, so can I!"

One of the problems now for beginners is that many of the gimmicked tricks are so easilly available that every smarty around knows how to do them.

My very first performance was for my grand daughters 7th birthday party. I had a stack of Marvins Magic tricks (I still like a lot of these and with complete laymen they can make you look good)

Anyway, I was put down by a 7 year old boy who stood by me and kept calling out "I know how he does that, my dads got that trick".

My performance was unpolished, my tricks were basic but the rest of the kids were enjoying it and were baffled. My daughter prevented me from doing a spectacular disappearing act (strangling said boy and dumping the body in the sea - please take out mods if too specific) so I had to live with it. I suppose in the end it spoilt the day for me more than the kids.

My advice is to not tell anyone at all how you do anything, even your mum can let you down!!. Also learn a couple of real card tricks, without gimmicks. Then you will master of your own performance and if anyone wants to know how you did that you can tell them "its magic"

Good luck!

Johnny Wizz wrote:
My advice is to not tell anyone at all how you do anything, even your mum can let you down!!. Also learn a couple of real card tricks, without gimmicks. Then you will master of your own performance and if anyone wants to know how you did that you can tell them "its magic"

Good luck!

And THAT is why I only do impromtu card magic now! Impromptu in the sense of no gimmicks but sometimes I do set up card tricks. Also, I'm practising plenty of flourishes.

StEvEbO!

With the exception of the Marvin's Magic tricks (specifically mentionned)which are widely distributed and available from general toy shops (Toys 'R' Us as an example) instead of magic shops, I think that there are still many gimmicked tricks as in self workers, that the vast majority of lay people will not have seen. They are also not that easy for lay people to get hold of unless they have a magic shop close by and can be bothered to visit to check out what's on offer. Most, is not nearly all lay people aren't really that bothered.

Speaking to my local magic dealer, 99.9% of lay people that walk through his door are after change for the launderette next door and show no signs of interest regarding what's on show as they walk out again. I think that there is still a high level of mysteriousness amongst lay people where magic is concened and long may it remain that way.

Stevebo, You can do impromptu magic with gimmicks, self worers etc. if you have them on you at the time. I think that what you're perhaps trying to say that you are learning tricks that use sleights and misdirection rather than gimmicks.