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Ok, heres what I've got. The brave magician walks up to a person, and says "Let's make a deal. I'll flip this coin, if it lands on your choice, either heads or tails, I'll give you [insert amount of money for spectator to win here]. If it lands on my choice, you don't have to give me anything. It's a win-nothing situation. The magician flips the coin, slaps it down to the back of his wrist, and all of a sudden the coin has vanished. That, or there are two coins, on heads and one tails. OK, my patter is terrible, but that can be changed. What I really need is a method of executing this. I was originally going to incorporate a TT, but then I would have to do something before I did the slapping action, so thats out of the question. I'm thinking some kind of coin palm, but another thing is that I want to show my hands empty afterwards, you know, finish clean. Is such a trick achievable? Even possible? Anything? And is there anybody out there who would be willing to work with me to perfect a method and astound spectators everywhere. Hopefully yes. Don't let this get shot down in flames, please. onto you guys

Try using Gregory Wilson's all around vanish. You should be clean afterwards. The all around vanish can be learnt on Gregory Wilson's On the Spot.

StEvEbO!

if you flip the coin and catch it palm up with the same hand you could use a raven with your other hand.. that would achieve a clean finish

See, I'm not so keen on the whole gimmick raven thing, The only gimmick I really use is the TT. I really should get around to using more, as more and more people are suggesting them.

Actually, mog's idea is better than you'd think.

Have the Raven in your left hand. Flip the coin up with your right hand, and slap it onto the back of your right hand with your left hand. Hopefully, the slap will cover any noise caused by the Raven. Lift your hand to show the coin not on the back of your fist, then release the Raven and show it gone.

Kati

you could always sleeve the coin as you reach up for it in the air. The raven would probably be a better option though.

Sleeve it. That's the best one I can think of. I think a sleeve would work better than using the raven, as it would be quicker and you could do it all in one move.

And what about the whole throw one up, catch two idea?

Use a complicated pulley system made of ultra-strong IT.
Alternatively, after you have sleeved the first coin, produce another, let the first land in your palm (from your sleeve), flip the first one in the air, and try to catch it so that the klink is only heard as your hand slaps the back of your left. The first coin should stay in your palm whilst trying to catch it.

There's one move I learnt aaaaaggeess ago from an old magic book, which involves throwing up an invisible coin and it appears.

You need one coin fingerpalmed in the right hand, then flip an invisible coin with the right hand. Follow it's progress with your eyes then as it comes down, just before you're about to slap it down, turn over the left hand a bit and throw it up into the air, hard. The move should be entirely invisible - after all, it's being covered by the descending right hand.

If you threw one coin up I bet you could do it with two...

Kati

if you actually do what you typed you must have two coins, and it would work

fingerpalmed in right, flip with right, toss one with left catch both on back of left hand.

Yes, you need two coins. That seems obvious to me - well, you could try real magic of course!

The reason this works - well, there are several reasons. One is that the misdirection is on the slapping hand, two is that a large action (flick and catch) covers a small one (toss), and three is that it doesn't matter if they get a flash of the coin because there's already supposed to be one there.

Kati

Anyone care to make a video, I don't quite understand what you mean by: turn over the left hand a bit and throw it up into the air, hard.
If you can explain that in more detail or make a video ( ) I would really appreciate it.

katrielalex wrote:there's no way of doing it with real magic.

Nick puts down human skull and bottle of goats blood and looks embarrassed

Hahaha, I actually laughed out loud at that