False Shuffle

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False Shuffle

Postby Piers » Jul 17th, '05, 10:00



Hello,
Apologies for what will seem like a basic question, but ...
I use effects like Osterlinds Breakthrough Card System (BCS), which is great.
Numerous cuts of the cards are no problem, for me or for the effect.
But my wife reckons the cards should be shuffled as well.

So, I need a false shuffle.

I'm happy to say that I have the manual dexterity of a troglodyte, but am happy to practise.

Can anyone recommend the source for a simple, false shuffle, please ?

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Piers.

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Postby katrielalex » Jul 17th, '05, 10:26

Well, the problem is that no full-deck false shuffle is easy to do. I once fooled my friends with a fake overhand shuffle, which was:

Drop about half the cards into your other hand, as in an overhand shuffle.

Drop the remainder on top.

Repeat.


but that was probably only because they weren't paying attention.

There's a nice false shuffle which Oz teaches in Emerge Triumphant (hard but convincing) - and the effect is waaaay worth it, or if you want the best go for the Zarrow shuffle DVD - impossibly hard to get perfect but if you do it's amazing.

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Postby jokerdan » Jul 17th, '05, 12:26

drop half of the pack, pull off 5 cards one by one, pull off another injogged, drop the rest of pack on top. Then drop all the cards above the injogged card, pull of the injogged card and the other 5 shuffled cards one by one, then drop rest of pack. easy to do and can be convincing sometimes.

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Postby stevebo » Jul 17th, '05, 12:42

As said by Kati, download Oz's Emerge Triumphant. I highly recommend the trick also. The false shuffle is excellent! Hard to master (I have yet to do) but once mastered, it is amazing.

Personally, I don't like the Zarrow shuffle. It doesn't look like a real shuffle to me.

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Postby dfitz1000 » Jul 17th, '05, 12:45

False shuffles are dealt with in a fair bit of detail in 'Expert at the Card Table' by Erdnase. You can get a free copy of it as an ebook here http://www.thelearnedpig.com.pa/

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Postby Sam:monkey fist » Jul 17th, '05, 15:10

jokerdan wrote:drop half of the pack, pull off 5 cards one by one, pull off another injogged, drop the rest of pack on top. Then drop all the cards above the injogged card, pull of the injogged card and the other 5 shuffled cards one by one, then drop rest of pack. easy to do and can be convincing sometimes.


A nice little finesse as it were to this shuffle is taught on one of Allen Ackermans DVDs. basically do the first bit and when doing the second half deal off the first three cards messy and pause to square them up and then deal off the other two. This breaks up the counting a little and makes it a little more deceptive.

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Postby Blade Master » Jul 18th, '05, 04:03

Here's an idea. When you split the deck make sure one is sufficiently smaller than the the other, say only 25% of the deck. Shuffle it quickly as to not arise suspition. But make sure you shuffle only at the corner closest to the spectator (kinda like a dealer shuffle). Then as you tilt them together to push them in, apply pressure to the corner to make the two piles unmerge. And quickly but slyly force the larger on top.

This should keep entire deck order unharmed. It's a little fishy at first, but if you get it down, it can trick an entire audiance.

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Postby the_mog » Jul 18th, '05, 05:18

Blade Master wrote:Here's an idea. When you split the deck make sure one is sufficiently smaller than the the other, say only 25% of the deck. Shuffle it quickly as to not arise suspition. But make sure you shuffle only at the corner closest to the spectator (kinda like a dealer shuffle). Then as you tilt them together to push them in, apply pressure to the corner to make the two piles unmerge. And quickly but slyly force the larger on top.

This should keep entire deck order unharmed. It's a little fishy at first, but if you get it down, it can trick an entire audiance.


This is a "Shank shuffle" which is basically a Zarrow shuffle without the top block cover and id think one of the most deceptive full deck false riffle shuffles

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Postby SlipperyPenguin » Jul 18th, '05, 11:22

I tend to pick up half the deck..
IJ the first card (top)..
Shuffle off..
Pickup 2/3 of the deck keeping the break with my thumb at the IJ.
and then shuffle off to the break.

The first part is in RRTCM and also I have seen a DVD with Daryl doing it.. but I can't remember where I got the second part from (most tell you to pick up the pack and simply dump it back ontop).

Seems to fool most people

Slippery

ps. If this is giving too much away then please edit.

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Postby Piers » Jul 18th, '05, 12:23

Hello,

Thank you for all the food for thought on False Shuffles. It’s been really useful.

I was also prompted to pick up again, my copy of Royal Road to Card Magic.

I hit upon the Charlier Shuffle. What a neat little shuffle it is.

It looked so simple I almost didn’t believe it would work, so I took a deck and ordered it back into Ace,2,3,4.. etc, by suit.
Then I Charlier shuffled a few times, in my haphazard style … and, the deck is still in order, as if, I had just performed one complete cut.
Amazing – too me, anyway.

So for Osterlind’s BCS users, this is great.

Maybe I’ve found a way to satisfy my wife after all. ( Erh … She didn’t like my cut only approach ).

Best,
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Postby Marcus Taylor » Jul 19th, '05, 20:15

There are large sections on false shuffles and cuts in most card magic books these days. I suggest learning 1 or 2 really good false cuts and mixing these with 1 or 2 really good false shuffles. Done convincingly at proper spped, you will really fool your audience. I use the Dai Vernon pull through false riffle shuffle and the swivel cut, combined with the up the ladder table cut. All of these and the others that I use I have found in easily accessible card magic books and whilst they take practice, they are not finger-breakingly difficult!

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