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yeh i have had this for awhile, umm yeh, i did it about 1 month ago and posted it on some other forums, but CC is GREATLY appreciated: here it is: http://media.putfile.com/Volver\

btw, SORRY for the crappy quality

I love this trick.

Now, some tips for you:

- calm down
- dont' sqeeze the cards, relax
- try to practice your smoothness

Hey bud, please don't take this into offence... But you should take this into concideration...that cards are delicate things, and should be treated like delicate things, the way you grip the cards honestly reminds me of someone gripping a door knob. I mean keep practicing, and be gental.

I don't mean to sound harsh, nor am I having a go at you or your skills but I think this trick is terrible. Firstly, the repition is boring and doesn't get stronger at any point. This is a Twisting Effect and yet only one card ever turns over. The fact that a different card turns over each time doesn't make the trick any more interesting. The trick simply doesn't get any stronger. For example, in a typical Twisting The Aces effect, the very least that the cards do is turn face down one at a time. In a good Twisting effect, this becomes increasingly impossible, or happens in more magical ways. In "Revolver" the cards do neither of these things. Secondly, why do the cards change colour (let alone the whole bloody deck!!)? It just doesn't fit in with the theme of the trick. This "Kicker" ending is terrible in my opinion. There is absolutely no reason to change the colour of the cards in your hand. And the fact that the rest of the deck turns red aswell is ridiculous. I'm sorry to say this because you've put in a good deal of effort learning this effect but in my honest opinion, you would have been far better off learning a Twisting the Aces Effect.

As for the handling, like it's been said before, try and handle the cards in a more natural manner. If you squeeze the cards so tight at the begining it doesn't look natural at all. This phase of the trick should look like the boring bit (i.e. the part before the magic starts to happen) and therefore it definately shouldn't look like anything fishy is going on. Also the push off and add on moves are blatantly obvious and these are key points. You must try and create some sort of misdirection at this point. Be it the spectator's checking the cards or whatever; just something to take their eyes off your hands. For the rest of the trick your hands look suspect when spreading, counting and holding the cards. To combat this you need to make it all look natural. The magical bit is that the card has magically turned over. The rst of the trick should look like you are simply counting the cards and spreading themand not that you are trying to hide something. If you're going to do the colour changing bit there are better ways of showing the deck has changed colour. One would be to spread the deck face up on the table and then flip it over to show all the backs have changed colour as well. That would be my personal choice, but you could also show the four cards have changed colour, drop them face up on the table, drop the deck face up ontop of them and then pick up everything and spread through them to show the backs have changed.

However, like I said at the begining, I think this trick is terrible and you'd be much better off puting it to one side and learning something else. Sorry to sound harsh but this is just my opinion.

Nathan, maybe you could look at my handle of this routine (not that mine is so perfect, bu at least it is more relaxed), and get an idea of how you can change your routine. I have called the routine "King's Turn", and you can find it here.

I can't believe that you think that this trick is terrible Goldfish, but, everyone are allowed to have their opinions

rcarlsen wrote:I can't believe that you think that this trick is terrible Goldfish, but, everyone are allowed to have their opinions

Without sounding antogonistic; yes it is my opinion but I also find it difficult to see why you would like this effect so much. I suppose it is a magician pleaser but I honsetly can't see it being a crowd pleaser. Bluntly, it is boring (non-climatic repition) and confusing (a random colour change of the cards and the deck!!). I'm not having a go at either nathan's performance or your's Rune; when you posted this effect I was impressed by your handling of the cards, but that doesn't mean I thought it was a good effect.

I'm intrigued as to why you find this effect so good? What are the strong points?

Well, I like this effect, because I get great response from audience. So, why you don't get a response as huge as mine, I don't know, but the reactions from my audience is very strong. And that's how I decide which tricks to use, - the reaction of my audience. Another thing, which is strong, with the right handling, is the fact that 3 cards are shown, front and back, and all appear to have a blue back. Now, if it isn't a great final and kicker that one of the cards, have changed the color of their back, well, then alot of magic tricks are "terrible". The ending has a surprise, and that is for me, usually, a good trick.

one thing i forgot to tell you guys is this is a trick no longer do, i learned it when i started out doign magic, i would redo the vid to show you that it does look much better, but 1 i am to lazy, and 2 well, i am just to lazy lol..
anyway thanks for the cc!

oh yes, i forgot to tell you rune, VERY nice vid i like urs, i need to get a good cam like urs, what do you use?

I think Rune uses a dv cam from what I remember from one of our conversations.

Me and Rune share a lot, he's got great handling with cards.

This is the cam I use:



A Sony DCR-PC350 MINI DV Digital Videocamera. It's VERY nice indeed.

rcarlsen wrote:Well, I like this effect, because I get great response from audience. So, why you don't get a response as huge as mine, I don't know

I must admit, that I have never performed this trick to a Lay Audience. However.I chose not to because Somewhere along the line I have to decide which tricks to perfect and which I do not like. This particular effect did nothing for me so I chose not to learn it. Of course I could try the whole trial and error approach; testing thousands of tricks with very little presentation until I hit upon tricks which "get a great responses". However, to me that sounds impractical so I choose to decide which tricks to perform before I even learn them.

rcarlsen wrote:That's how I decide which tricks to use, - the reaction of my audience.

This is a fair eough approach but in my opinion, it is an over simplified one. Personally, I can not simply say "my audience liked this, I'll do it again." By following that course I feel I would not be doing my job as an entertainer properly. Therefore, with reference to this effect, I analyse a trick before I perform it. I look at it's opening, it's themes, it's middle and it's ending. If I like all or some aspects of the trick I will investigate it further and try to strengthen it where I think it needs strengthening or perhaps not do anything to it at all. In this instance I liked none of the aspects of the trick.

rcarlsen wrote:with the right handling, is the fact that 3 cards are shown, front and back, and all appear to have a blue back. Now, if it isn't a great final and kicker that one of the cards, have changed the color of their back, well, then alot of magic tricks are "terrible". The ending has a surprise, and that is for me, usually, a good trick.

Firstly, the cards are not shown front and back before they change colour. No matter how the effect is handled any intelligent spectator will be able to work back to realise that the cards were never shown front and back before the colour change. Nor was the rest of the deck.

Secondly, I aggree that many tricks out there are terrible, for this very reason. Their "kicker" endings are there purely to please the magician and not the spectator.

Finally, the ending does not have a suprise, it has a shock. Like I have said before the cards have no reason to change colour except to please the magician.

But I maintain, these are just my opinions. Granted, ones which are held quite strongly, but opinions none the less. Feel free to disaggree if you wish; I don't mean to cause offense.

Finally, the ending does not have a suprise, it has a shock. Like I have said before the cards have no reason to change colour except to please the magician.

Ok, I find this a really bad argument - but are allowed to have different opinions aren't we If you add the right patter to this trick, and also maybe add some extra movements (maybe one could use the red pad as part of the trick), then the color change would/could have a reason.

I honestly don't understand your arguments about "please the magician". How would ANY color change "PLEASE THE AUDIENCE"? It's all about surprises and kickers.

No matter how the effect is handled any intelligent spectator will be able to work back to realise that the cards were never shown front and back before the colour change. Nor was the rest of the deck.

Disagree again. First of all, I must admin, no we don't show the backs, sorry, I mixed up with another trick. But, eventhough, there's an illusion here. You can pick up a red deck of cards. The cards still be in the box. You take out the cards, and your audience can clearly see that the cards are red, at least there is a strong illusion that it is. The box is red, and the top card is red. That is strong enough to fool any laymen. Sedondly, as cards start to turn around, a different king is turned everytime, and every time the king is turned around, it shows us the red back. This makes the illusion of the red backs even stronger. Now when you finally gesture, and kill this illusion, as you show that all cards infact, they are not red, they are blue, as well as the "red deck", then this is a huge kicker, as their thoughts of the trick, and their illusion has completely been broken into pieces. "What tha...." is a very usual response I get from my audience.

So, it's about building an illusion. And that's magic. Getting your audience to believe in something, that infact isn't true.

If that's not magic, nothing is....

"What tha...." is a very usual response I get from my audience.

That highlights my point all together. That "what the hell" kind of response, no matter how it's phrased, shows that you have just confused and bemused your audience. True, they may be amused at the same time, but that amusment is still founded on confusion. Many tricks do this, they confuse an audience into amazement i.e. they are only amazed because they simply couldn't follow or understand why something just happened. The colour change is completely unjustified in this instance. I think to an extent, even though I think its a fantastic little trick, the colour changing aspect of The Bizarre Twist by Paul Harris is also completely unjustified.

I honestly don't understand your arguments about "please the magician". How would ANY color change "PLEASE THE AUDIENCE"? It's all about surprises and kickers.

Firstly, I don't believe magic is all about Suprise and Kickers, and any effect which is simply about that is starting off on the wrong foot. Magic is about creating wonder by performing the impossible. However, that's another argument.

Secondly, the colour change "pleases the magician" because, from a magician's point of view, it is more impressive. From a Lay perspective, the cards turning over is pretty impressive; to shove a colour change on top of there aswell is not neccessary.

Going back to justified and non-justified elements of a trick and in answer to your question of how a colour change can please an audience, watch the demo clip of Sam Webster's Nemesis (click here to watch) and then watch the Revolver Demo again (click here to watch). Which colour change is more satisfying? I think that Nemesis is quite obviously the better effect and more pleasing to watch. This is because it makes sense and is justified. Revolver's colour change doesn't make sense and has no justifcation what so ever. Of course I may be wrong but I can't see the reason for the cards changing colour?

I agree, it's a great effect, but again, we are talking about 2 totally different routines/effects. They are strong in their different ways if you ask me. I do the nemesis from time to time, but again, i can' say I prefer nemesis over the other one....