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ok since i saw Runes effect i thought im gonna have to give it a go.. the methods are completely different and the handling isnt as good but there you go!

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To be honest, I liked Rune's version more. Your one is good but the handling isn't as well. It's fairly obvious to know something is happening, I think even to laymen.

StEvEbO!

You sound awfully like sean conery bud ... so .. for that, you earn a few brownie points.

Its nice to see the same effect being carried in a different version of the routine, gives a little variety.

Thanks mog,

Rob

stevebo wrote:To be honest, I liked Rune's version more. Your one is good but the handling isn't as well. It's fairly obvious to know something is happening, I think even to laymen.

StEvEbO!

just curious but what bits in particular?

How does he sound like Sean Connery? Just a question .

Mog: sorry to be overly critical, and no offence meant, but I do think that Rune's routine is a bit clearer than yours. The main problem with yours was that the mixing and the display just weren't clean enough. For example, you had to do some type of odd count for the first mix, and for the second there was, I think even to a layman, something fishy with the display.

To name one specific "funny" part in the routine, on the second display, why were the reds on the bottom of each of the blacks - shouldn't it stand to reason that they should be on the bottom of the pile?

Personally, I think Oil and Water is one of those tricks where the addition of a gaff or just an extra card makes it just that much better - an impromptu Oil and Water will always have the problem that the display can't be clean.

Kati

the problem is that this version is done with a spectator hence the "funny" first count and the spread (2nd) is meant to show the blacks as the top 4 while the spreading motion shows the reds as the bottom 4.. this is one of the disadvantages of being "In the know" you tend to overlook what a spec would see...


Ty for the comments though

True...a layman would probably see this as much better than I did .

Kati

Kati said -

Personally, I think Oil and Water is one of those tricks where the addition of a gaff or just an extra card makes it just that much better - an impromptu Oil and Water will always have the problem that the display can't be clean.

There is an impromptu method which is not as good as that method, where you use 6 cards, and one simple move. I might film it just to show you, but it's not as good as this one.

the_mog wrote:just curious but what bits in particular?

I think it was the first mix of the cards. It's an unusual way of handling the cards. What you need to do is to mix the cards as though you are actually mixing it with no sleights. Same principle as the DL... practice turning over a single card and make the DL the same look.

Just that you need to make it seem more natural.

StEvEbO!

the first mix as i said above "should" be done with the spec adding a black card on top of my red card every time so that they know that the cards are mixed hence the reason for my dodgy looking count

- an impromptu Oil and Water will always have the problem that the display can't be clean.

Katrielalex, there is a version that I perform that uses only 8 cards and can be examined after the completion of the card effect. It can be done impromptu.

edh

this one also only uses 8 cards

As for fully examinable, someone of Mog's skill can surely make his effect examinable with a simple move.

I enjoyed the effect, Mog - it was a nice variation of the oil and water concept. You had a bit of a flash on the "shake" portion, but that's just a one-time thing I'm sure.

Personally, it's not my favorite version of the effect. I find Rune's superior in presentation and the fact that his doesn't use 8 cards.

However, that's not to say that you didn't put a hell of an effort in. I like that you're going your own way with it. I like that we can see you are experimenting with a new way to present the effect. With some spit and polish, this effect can be very strong and effective. Good job.

As far as the tricks concerned, some fishy moves - some a little confusing but i like your accent! Sean connery eat your heart out. With a little practice you'll be running about with Nick Cage diffusing Nerve Gas bombs set on the Rock to destroy the world!

Muahaha!

Alex