Thanks again, dat. I'll bear that in mind for future purposes but I suppose I can claim ignorance on this one

Have had a bit of a play with the Raven, and I can see some scope for it, but I agree with what others have said - you probably can't beat good slieghts - so I'll dust off Bobo's book and take my time.
The card work is coming on OK (its all coming back to me now!) and I can't wait to get my hands on this DVD!
Anybody been to Magic World in Manchester Arndale? Taking a trip over there today....