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Postby acesover » Nov 7th, '05, 22:55



I am very new here so this may have been suggested already. While you are told not to mix up the Invisible deck. It is a good idea to change things around. Just keep them with the right partners. If you have the deck you will know what I mean. Because if you look at the deck the way it arrives you can see a pattern that the cards are in and it just looks fishy. As I said sorry if this has been covered.

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Re: ID hint

Postby i1011i » Nov 8th, '05, 01:18

acesover wrote:I am very new here so this may have been suggested already. While you are told not to mix up the Invisible deck. It is a good idea to change things around. Just keep them with the right partners. If you have the deck you will know what I mean. Because if you look at the deck the way it arrives you can see a pattern that the cards are in and it just looks fishy. As I said sorry if this has been covered.


If you can logically sort it out go for it. But I would take a note of their current setup just in case.

Remember, people don't make bad decisions, they just make decisions at bad times.

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Postby acesover » Nov 8th, '05, 02:50

Thanks for your reply. But there is nothing really to sort out. I have changed the locations of the partners again you will know what I mean if you have the deck. It is just that the order they came in was all the even cards in sequence and all the odd cards in sequence. All I meant to do is change the partners around so that you break the sequence. It in no way affects the outcome. If you are not sure what I mean you can contact me by email athrower@adelphia.net I have done it and it works fine. I am just not possibly explaining what I mean. Sorry as again I am very new here.

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Postby magic_evmeister » Nov 8th, '05, 16:08

If you're using your deck properly then the spectators won't be paying attention to any of the face up cards 'cause they'll be looking for a face down card amongst the mass of face up cards, which you've just told them about. And also, whilst you don't want to be rushing the trick, you don't wanna be hanging around letting people see everything either or people will notice something suspicious about the deck. An idea I always use is the do it quite quickly and put the deck back in my pocket before anyone has a chance to inspect it. Then if they do ask, I pull out a normal deck of same colour from the same pocket so they can actually inspect and be really amazed (this is why I always wear combats for magic - millions of pockets).

Another tip I would offer is that I never use it as a trick in itself. If you've been reading around these forums then you'll know that often people use this deck as an "out" for a pick a card trick. If for some reason you lose their card you can use this as a final revelation before you move on to save from looking like an idiot.

This being said, also it cannot hurt to leave the deck in a memorable order because you wouldn't want their card to be right at the top or bottom - you want it somewhere in the middle when you show it to them. So when you know what card you're looking for you just have to cut the deck so you know that their card and it's "pair" are somewhere near the middle.

Hope you find my advice useful.

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Postby acesover » Nov 8th, '05, 22:21

magic_evmeister wrote:If you're using your deck properly then the spectators won't be paying attention to any of the face up cards 'cause they'll be looking for a face down card amongst the mass of face up cards, which you've just told them about. And also, whilst you don't want to be rushing the trick, you don't wanna be hanging around letting people see everything either or people will notice something suspicious about the deck. An idea I always use is the do it quite quickly and put the deck back in my pocket before anyone has a chance to inspect it. Then if they do ask, I pull out a normal deck of same colour from the same pocket so they can actually inspect and be really amazed (this is why I always wear combats for magic - millions of pockets).

Another tip I would offer is that I never use it as a trick in itself. If you've been reading around these forums then you'll know that often people use this deck as an "out" for a pick a card trick. If for some reason you lose their card you can use this as a final revelation before you move on to save from looking like an idiot.

This being said, also it cannot hurt to leave the deck in a memorable order because you wouldn't want their card to be right at the top or bottom - you want it somewhere in the middle when you show it to them. So when you know what card you're looking for you just have to cut the deck so you know that their card and it's "pair" are somewhere near the middle.

Hope you find my advice useful.


Thanks...I never really thought about their card being right on top or bottom. Good point.

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