Using double face cards

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Using double face cards

Postby TylerD » Nov 28th, '05, 04:45



Does anybody get nervous using double face cards??? I always use them well I guess not always but sometimes and nobody has done anything yet....My friends always do just to ber jerks. Im just scarred doing like the Mcdonalds aces one time that someone will just grab the cards and see or something.....has this ever happened to anybody???? What do you do when using double face cards??

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Postby Zero000 » Nov 28th, '05, 06:26

well, dont do it to jerks...
just find somebody who will actully enjoy your magic without screwing you up

such as my art teacher, doesnt really get suspicious of anything, he just wants to enjoy the magic

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Postby MagicBill » Nov 28th, '05, 11:30

I don't get nervous using double facers, but using triple facers terrifies me! :shock:

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Postby Peter Marucci » Nov 28th, '05, 12:28

TylerD,
Your problem doesn't seem to be so much your fear of using double-faced cards as with "grabby" spectators.

I could give you advice tthat says "Know your audience" or some such. But that wouldn't do you a great deal of good.

The late Tony Slydini, probably the greatest closeup artist of all time, would not perform unless the audience, angles, lighting, etc. were all to his liking.

Fortunately, in this case, he was hard of hearing so, if asked and the situation was not ideal, he'd simply pretend not to hear.

I'm not suggesting you feign partial deafness; but saying "no" occasionally won't hurt you.

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Postby Renato » Nov 28th, '05, 18:35

I once had a double-backed card in my deck - I didn't realise it was in there and so when I got out my cards and handed them to someone to shuffle I heard...

"What the hell is this?!"

There were ooohs all across the room as people thought I'd been rumbled. Thankfully someone interjected and said that all Bikes come with a card like that (they don't) and that it was just an extra card.

Phew!

Of course, the magic that followed was so strong that they don't recall the card now :wink:

But that was down to me failing to check my cards beforehand. It seems that your problem stems from your worry that you can't control your audience...would I be right in thinking you are relatively new to magic? The more you perform the more you learn about certain patterns of behaviour - warning signs, things to look out for, so in time you may find that you will be able to detect when someone's about to reach for the cards. The more experience you have the better you learn to handle your audience...kinda learn naturally over a period of time. Or maybe it's a problem with your routining? Sit down, think about it and try and find a way of ensuring that people won't reach for the cards.

Remember, although you know that you're using gaffed cards your audience doesn't; if you're worried that someone will reach for the cards then maybe on a subconscious level your audience will pick up on that too, and the trouble makers may reach for the cards...just be confident and hopefully everything will be fine. Treat your cards like normal ones and it's more likely others will.

That said, don't be worried if people mess up the effect and find out you're using double-facers; in time, they will forget about them. It's a trivial thing really, finding out how an effect is done, and not one that would be of any use them remembering.

Hope this helps :D

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Postby moodini » Nov 28th, '05, 23:01

I use gaffed cards (including double-faced) in many situations.....I have not found that the specs suspect the cards. Check you handling, and the convincing nature of your routine.......you need to remember that 99% of non-card workers, would not even consider that a double-faced card is available!!! What situations do you perform with them in? Is it a one-shot situation, or do you have follow up effects, can you do a deck switch if needed, can you follow up with other non-gaffed effects? That way you can always say......"yes you can see them, but let me show you a couple more first!"

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Postby TylerD » Nov 29th, '05, 05:36

Thx everybody for the great advice. I dont use them that much. Ususally just in the club sandwich trick and the Mcdonalds aces. I would use them more but my school is filled with hecklers haha so I get a little edgy around them. I try my best to keep my cool though.

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