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Just to give you guys a heads up, there is a pretty exciting sounding traick coming out from the guys who make the Outlaw wallet, Sanctum and Kioku...Homicide

You can read about it here...

http://www.outlaw-effects.com

...What's more, they are making a UK version as well. You can read about why this is on their site.

I will be giving this a "right-going-over" as soon as I get it and will post a review here without delay.

These guys are really on the ball!

The U.K Rocks! We knew when we came up with the effect we had to do a U.K. version!

You guys are on the cutting edge in mentalism and we're glad to be a part of it.

Rick

Are you going to from country to country letting them their country is the rockingest country around. "Way better than that France". "Lets see who can make the most noise" "Wooo"

The effect looks pretty cool, can it be done more than once to the same audience?

I believe one meant to say...

"Woo...(ahem) hoo... the United Kingdom does indeed, rock...as one might say. Take it to the mall (The Mall, not the shopping arcade) and 'props' for ones 'homies' in the palace, one time."

You guys are on the cutting edge in mentalism and we're glad to be a part of it.

Yup - we knew you'd say that .

The spec can turn to ANY page, choose an unfortunate victim’s name, or street and you not only know what victim they are thinking of, but you can reveal how they met their demise BEFORE you reveal their name. Or of course you can reveal their name or the street where they were murdered, and than reveal the method of their demise.

Well I have to say that really does sound like it is right up my street. There is so much room for play acting there, especially if they think about how their chosen person was murdered.

The book also sounds like an ideal size for table hopping, but I see that this could equally be powerful for stage/parlour work.

I have a few questions (and sorry, I just can't wait for Tom's review!). If you feel uncomfortable with answering any of the questions for whatever reason, then please do NOT answer.

1. Would it be possible to do this effect with an imaginary murder from three parts of the book, ie, one person looks up a name, one an address and one a method? This could make for a great and genuinely baffling stage piece.

2. Is there a lot of memory work involved?

3. When will it be available?

4. How do I pre-order?

oh, and its Whitechapel by the way. One word.

Yep, will get one of those, are you taking preorders Roth?

this sounds similar to something out of skulduggery, though i am sure it is a different method, they are producing some good things here.

I'm afraid I can't help with this as I am eagerly awaiting my copy so it's over to you "Roth"...8hrs time difference is NO excuse!

1. The effect is for pre-order right now on our site.

2. Whitechapel got it.

3. You can do the effect with two people at the same time.

4. The spec can choose either the name of a victim, the street, type of crime, area.

5. The an entire routine can be done without having to memorize one word.

There are multible entries of victims on each page. Over 500 victims in the book.

Working on the new Outlaw product forum tonight. There will be Homicide, Kioku, Outlaw and Sanctum forums.

Rick

Hi Roth, is the effective repeatable to the same audience?

Happy Toad wrote:Hi Roth, is the effective repeatable to the same audience?

You'll have to pardon me but I'm not quite sure why you would repeat the same routine twice to the same audience.

I must be missing something?

You can have two people each choose a word and reveal both words and both types of murder.

The only thing that may occur there is both victims may have been killed by the same method.
There are only so many ways to kill someone. (don't ask how I know that)

It will be just as strong if both victims happened to be shot as it would if there were two different methods chosen.

"How odd? I feel they both seemed to have met their creator at the end of a smoking barrel"

That is a line I have used.

If you can act ( don't we all? ) you will kill with this. Hehe I said "kill with this".

Rick

Roth wrote:

Happy Toad wrote:Hi Roth, is the effective repeatable to the same audience?

You'll have to pardon me but I'm not quite sure why you would repeat the same routine twice to the same audience.

Well what I was thinking is to have the scenarios already writtin out in an envelopes with case file written on them then have 2 people each choose a word. The specs, using their own psychic powers are given a (not very free) choice of envelope one for themselves and one for the other spectator and the answers are already predicted inside. Obviously not knowing how the effect works I haven't worked out the finer details but I'm sure from what you have said that this could be achieved.

You'll have to pardon me but I'm not quite sure why you would repeat the same routine twice to the same audience.

Well you wouldn't want to, but in a working environment there are various situations where this comes up. For example in a strolling environment people move around and so someone you performed earlier to, may move across to watch while you perform to another group. It may be that everyone at a certain function knows everyone else and so they discuss effects afterwards, if they were impressed with this particular effect and talk about it with friends and discover it was the same victim and death, again this probably wouldn't be the best effect for that situation. Sometimes doing table hopping at a regular place you go to a table where one or more of the spectators have seen you before and again this could be tricky if you performed an effect that appears to offer a random choice but always ends up the same. In this case the Spec may even request you to perform the effect they saw before so their friends can see it. etc etc Anyhow I guess from your answer that the answer is no?

Anyhow I guess from your answer that the answer is no?

I got the impression the answer was yes Could you clear this up?

Even if you can't it doesn't mean it is a bad effect there are ways round it of course but its nice to know before you buy something.