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Afternoon all!

I have recently been trying to learn the illogical cut from Sankeys 45 DVD but after several tantrums and lots of head scratching I am still can't work out where I am going wrong.
I have the splitting the pack into four sorted and I seem to know what goes where. I seem to know which part of the pack goes where but the first outjogged card that returns to the pack seems to get in the way of the bundle that goes directly on top thus not having the outjog.
Hope this makes sense and doesn't expose anything. Anyway does anyone have any tips or know where I am going wrong. If exposure is a problem please pm me.

Thanks in advance

i havn't seen sannkey's 45. i learnt this from SOWC (don't hate me #ducks to avoid inevitable slap coming in my direction#). i've no idea why you'd have an outjogged card during an illogical cut. any particular reason?

I presume it is so you can pull the two packets out of the deck (the last move you do in the illogical cut) in order to keep the cut false.

I learnt this move from Jay Sankeys 'The very best of' disk 1. I have not seen 45. By that stage you should have the top packet and the third packet down outjogged ( 1 out, 1 not, 1 out, 1 not) if that makes sense. There should be no breaks between the packets with everything held in the left hand. Use the right index finger to contact the top left hand corner of BOTH outjogged packets together. Spin them clockwise. As you get to about 3 o clock, grip the together as they come free so you dont drop them! Place the combined packet on top of the deck.

Persevere, i really think this move is worth the effort

Thanks for the tip!

I actually perservered with this over the weekend and seem to have got the hang of it now. I was basically holding one of the piles at the wrong angle not letting me run the pile above it past. That probably makes no sense but I got it working. Now I just need more practice so it's smooth.