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Where are you learning the handling of a double undercut from - is it from a teaching video/book or is it just from watching other people do it?

Kati

On porn to perform i have gone through it, but i knew the pass before i got born to perform, so i didnt really give it much of a change becuase i figured i could just use the pass.

Adam

I hope you were asking thAT question to me !!

OK, fair enough

I'll shut up now

Kati

LOL im sure if i gave it more than 5 minutes i would get it but......

cordenadam wrote:On porn to perform

Er, I think that's probably a completely different kind of DVD !

yeah, where can i get 'porn to perform'? is a double-undercut when you...no, i better not say what im thinking...

oppps that my bad born to perform sorry lol

I'm with cordenam, i can do a workable pass but i've never learned the double undercut so when i try it it looks a little bit suss. I'm sure with half an hours practice i could get it ok but I'm happy with my pass now so there's no immediate need.

bronz wrote:I'm with cordenam, i can do a workable pass but i've never learned the double undercut so when i try it it looks a little bit suss. I'm sure with half an hours practice i could get it ok but I'm happy with my pass now so there's no immediate need.

Thats not the point. If you new neither a pass nor the double undercut, which one would be best to learn as a control first. You've already said that it would take half an hour to learn the double undercut, so unless you perfected your pass in twenty minutes (!) my advice stands.

I find it really odd that everyone and their dog is learning the pass and missing out on the basics. Great you can do a decent pass, but you can't handle the deck for s***. Okay, perhaps I'm overstating the situation, but .... next section removed by author, although no names were mentioned my comments were unfair and so I have removed them ... .

I know everyone has their own style, interpretation of the art and speed of learning, but come on. Apologies for the rant; I've removed names to protect the innocent. For some reason but I'm particularly grumpy today. I'll stop short of blaming a certain range of DVDs.

If your having trouble with the double under cut you could just cut the cards a bunch of times to the table until you get to the break and then just put the rest of top of those. Or you could just swivel cut to the break or something.

I said u i wanted a book yes i knew how to do it but i couldnt quite get the last bit of cover for it, becuase you could see the movement of my fingers you. So what you wrote was Sh*t and pointless.
everybody has there own ways and that was my way, and i can handle a pack of cards, thank you.

cordenadam wrote:I said u i wanted a book yes i knew how to do it but i couldnt quite get the last bit of cover for it, becuase you could see the movement of my fingers you. So what you wrote was Sh*t and pointless.
everybody has there own ways and that was my way, and i can handle a pack of cards, thank you.

Okay Corenadam, I apologise for making my general grumpyness personal Although please note I didnt mention any names; I have therefore removed the comment.

As for you not being able to handle a deck, how would I know if you could or couldn't. All I know is that you can do a pass but not a double undercut. You'll find that this was a GENERAL statement, which I then went on to provide a specific example of. I've apologised for the specific statement but stand by the generalisation.

If you think my statements a s*** and pointless fine, feel free to ignore them.

thats ok and i will do my best to learn a double under cut just for you i will tell you when i can do it.

cordenadam wrote:thats ok and i will do my best to learn a double under cut just for you i will tell you when i can do it.

Ahhh, things are back to normal at talkmagic. Mandrake didn't even have to step in.

I really must get therapy, or stop reading the binghams blog.

That's fair enough pdjamez I can see your point. Funnily enough I first saw the double undercut on a DVD where it was showed as part of a trick but not explained. I asked a mate how to do it and he said 'don't worry about that learn this instead' and taught me the pass. The double undercut would indeed be a much easier control to learn for a beginner but it just so happens that I learned the pass first. And I'm very glad I did cos it's a fantastic move, but I could've saved myself several months by learning the double undercut instead.