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Which pass??

Postby TigertheGambler » Aug 29th, '06, 04:09



Hello,
I just started to learn the classic pass. My question is, I have seen two versions of it, the "original" by bringing the top half(1.half) under the bottom half(2.half). Then I saw a video, where a guy did the pass the other way round, the 2. half over the 1. Is that another pass? Or just a "wrong classic"? And which one is better for what? Perhaps you can help me out :)

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Postby i1011i » Aug 29th, '06, 11:26

There are many many version of the pass. I can't at the moment think of the name of that pass. It is a slightly easier one to execute if I remember correctly, and has many applications that won't suit a classic pass. (Much the same for the classic pass)

I recommend the DVD "On The Pass" he teaches 10-15 different passes and then some neat tricks todo with them.

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Postby Dominick » Aug 29th, '06, 15:30

Bringing the bottom to the top could be the Turnover Pass or the Hermann...I think...But yes, the classic is more difficult than the turnover or the Hermann.

EDIT: My bad...:)

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Postby Charles Calthrop » Aug 29th, '06, 16:08

You could be describing the Hermann (not Hoffman) pass, but a few passes fit this description like the Fred Robinson riffle pass. The turnover pass is a variation of the Hermann pass, using the action of turning over the deck as cover.
As <unpronounceable> said, it's horses for courses and you can't necessarily just substitute one for another without some thought.

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Postby TigertheGambler » Aug 29th, '06, 17:54

Thx for the answers :)

I figured out for me, that the Classic Pass is alright, if I want to bring a card on top face down. If I bring a card face up on top, the classic is not so good for me, because the card flashes through my finger very early. Is that a problem of the classic pass or am I just too slow? Or my hands too small? Because I cannot cover the whole card to prevent flashing :/
If I use the other pass, the face up card appears very late and it looks more like it just jumped to the top.

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Postby fireshower » Aug 29th, '06, 18:08

Very rarely are someone's hands too small to do most sleights, it's just about how you're doing it.

I would be able to help you more if you posted a video or something, but for now, all I can say is to experiment in front of a mirror.

Feel free to PM me with specific questions.

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Postby mango » Aug 29th, '06, 18:31

if you are flashing then its likely not because of your hand size but because of your technique. There are ways to cover those moments when the passing packets flash. A book such as The Pass - Gary Ouellet or a dvd such as Pass With Care by Peter cassford will sort you out I'm sure.

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Postby mccabe24 » Aug 31st, '06, 00:58

If I were you, I'd just stick with the classic pass. By the way, that's where you put the second half over the first half. It is the leas susspisious of all the passes I've seen.

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