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Hi Guys,

You guys were not satisfied with my video so I reshot it, now tell me what you guys think !!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VwWwmhaPKng

That was much better!

I quite enjoyed it this time around. You did good getting someone to try it themselves first. Also presenting it as a martial arts 'chi' stunt is a great idea. Yeah I rather like it actually.

hi, i have just joined and watched your other video, and i have to say, i do not think that it is your performance that made people not satisfied, it is that there is not really a magical effect by crushing a can of soda, if you would make the soda re-appear inside the can.. then im sure people would be impressed.

good luck

This video was much better than the original.

I still fail to see the "magic" in it. I'm well aware that it's difficult to stomp a full can of soda like that, I was when I first made my comments. The problem isn't from the original video's lack of proving this - it's that even in the face of the spectator failing, it's still doesn't have that feeling of magic.

A typical spectator will likelybe surprised but this, but I imagine the wonder will wear off pretty quickly. It doesn't play like a magical effect, especially with your martial arts patter line. To some, such an idea will relegate the effect to a test of strength. To others it will be a dedication to martial arts.

While that CAN work to your advantage in some regards, an effect like this can be too easily dismissed as you being stronger than they are, or weighing more - or a number of different reasons. That's just the problem I have with the effect. There are many possible explanations for how this happens. None of them (for me) happen to be very magical in nature.

I'm not trying to knock your work on this, far from it. I'm just saying there are many factors you need to take into account. You need to address the possible explanations and work on making them less plausible through your presentation.

I've just had an idea. I don't know how your trick works so this may not be possible, but I think it would be better if the participant stomped on the can. You would get him to try the first time showing that it was not possible, you could then put him into a trance or whatever (no I don't really know what I'm talking about ). While in the "trance" he tries again, and succeeds in a "mind over matter" style thing. That could work.

I think you should try to come up with a version where the can vanishes upon stomping it though. That would be great!

Hey ya that is a way i was going to do it as well, there are many ways this can be presented

you see, now that was a lot better. you should force the right can on them at the beggining in some way, that would be quite ammusing (to a magician i guess).
i can see this kind of thing being for sale in ellusionist, it's there kind of #eh hem# "magic"! good luck!

This video was better than the first. But I still fail to see the magic. I realize it's extremely difficult. But that's not to say it can't be done, which takes everything magical away. If you change a card, that's impossible. If you vanish a coin, that's unbelievable. If you stomp a can, the spectator might think you're just really good at stomping cans. Which leads me to not like this very much.

that was great.
i really enjoyed the effect.
you could say "you had a total free choice of can"
so it makes it look like it can be done with any can type thing, i wouldn't know if it's gaffed. but yeh.

great

I think the reason why it lacks a magical touch is because ontop of the reasons stated above there is no build up, or "moment of wonder". Its just kinda like "stomp"-"done". It might be a good imbetween filler trick at a party, but I can't see it being a big hit on the streets. Especially if you splash coke on any poor spectators.

Look at all the popular effects now, they all follow a pattern.

The idea is there, I think you just need to take it further and build on it. Maybe combine that with another effect to make something more out of it.

and it may be more of a convincer to stomp the exact same can the spectator fails to stomp instead of using a different one (or is that not possible?)

I also do not see the "magic" in this. It is a good stunt, but I see the magical angle.

I wasn't as impressed with this as I was with some of your other videos. This one seems to be lacking in true magic. It is still impressive, but I think you should stick to your other effects.

Well I went today and bought myself 2 cans for an experiment.
So I rigged the first one (don't know if in the same way you did in your trick but never mind) and popped it with a stomp.

Now I had the second can and I thought to myself that with some work this can be turned into something better by bashing it with my hand instead of my leg.
So I went on and tried it (after rigging it of course), and it hurt like hack...
After cursing every god that exist on the planet and a cup of tea I went back to the can, and with some more rigging to the can, a bit of the "bare hand nail into wood" method, and I did it!
Well it didn't explode like it did when I done it with my leg, but it smashed pretty good, and squirted coke all over my pants...

I will try to get another can and film it soon.

iummydd wrote:Well it didn't explode like it did when I done it with my leg, but it smashed pretty good, and squirted c**k all over my pants...