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Need some quick help with a new trick idea

Postby Mooch » Sep 29th, '06, 20:07



Hey,
I just thought up a really nice effect:

Firstly, a sealed envelope is placed on the table/floor/held by the spectator or something, and you retrieve a book. You then proceed to riffle through the pages of a book and have a spectator stop you where they like. They then remember the page number and a word on the page. You, being the great magician you are, are able to tell them the word they selected from the page. You then ask the spectator to open the envelope and get out the contents, without you even touching the envelope since it was produced. The spectator then finds that the envelope contained the page that they stopped at, and they can search through the book and find that the tear on the page in the envelope matches exactly with the tear where the page in the book should be, but is no longer, despite them just having a look at it.

However I need some help with one aspect of it. I've scoured through my various magic books and videos, looking for something that I could incorporate into the trick, but to no avail. I'm just looking for a simple move (to do with the book), and I can't really say more without tipping the method, although I'm sure most of you have figured it out already ;)
Anyway, if you think you could lend a hand then please PM me or post here or something, and I'll send you off a PM with the move I need. If you know of any methods or videos/books containing the method, then please let me know back by PM.
Thanks, and sorry if this doesn't make sense/is in the wrong place/shouldn't even be here, I'm really tired and don't think I'm making total sense at the moment.

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Postby Renato » Sep 29th, '06, 20:10

If you don't find a solution you could always try Hilford's The Wizard's Manual...it's pricey though.

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Postby Demitri » Sep 29th, '06, 20:15

This exact idea was the subject of a contest over at Online Visions. Might want to head over there and check out the results of that one, perhaps?

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Postby Mooch » Sep 29th, '06, 21:17

Hey,
Thanks for the fast replies! Would you mind providing a link to the Online Visions contest? I'm either looking on the wrong website, or am an incompetent fool ;)
Thanks.

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Postby wordie » Oct 2nd, '06, 23:52

thats actually a criss angel trick, nothing you made up

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Postby Kolisar » Oct 3rd, '06, 00:36

wordie wrote:thats actually a criss angel trick, nothing you made up


Let's give Hairyfreak some credit. Although he may not have been the first to create this effect, he may have independently created the effect having never seen it before.

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Postby Misanthropy » Oct 3rd, '06, 01:33

I thought this was a camera trick or the other guy doing it was a stooge cause the book never leaves the spectators hands and Criss never handles the book

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Postby gunnarkr » Oct 3rd, '06, 01:41

It sounds like a very good trick and quite unique, but on the other hand a very expensive one, as you have to "ruin" a book every time you show it. A new book for each performance is gonna cost you a lot, eh? :)

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Postby wordie » Oct 3rd, '06, 02:13

well he had seen the effect, although thinking it was camera tricks/stooges, so kudos on thinking of (posibly) a new method

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Postby Mooch » Oct 3rd, '06, 07:17

Sorry, I thought I had seen the trick somewhere before, I just couldn't remember where. And yes, it was performed by Criss Angel ;)
Anyway, the method I thought up doesn't require any camera tricks or stooges, and only one very simple move/sleight. The rest is very easy to do, and is basically acting.
I'm pretty sure half of you can figure this one out, but I could still do with a little help with one aspect of the book.
Unfortunately, you would have to ruin a book for your first performance, but after that, if you use the same book, you wouldn't have to ruin any others.
Thanks,
Harry.

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Postby Demitri » Oct 3rd, '06, 07:53

Misanthropy wrote:I thought this was a camera trick or the other guy doing it was a stooge cause the book never leaves the spectators hands and Criss never handles the book


Please tell me this isn't sincere.....

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Postby Renato » Oct 3rd, '06, 12:29

wordie wrote:thats actually a criss angel trick, nothing you made up


Actually it's probably a Docc Hilford effect...

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Postby IAIN » Oct 5th, '06, 09:29

castle dracula mentalism book by the mighty Cameron has pretty much the same effect...

you can get it from Martin Breese...great book...

regardless of that, take it as a good thing that you are in such fine company - and well done on coming up with it independantly...

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Postby Mooch » Oct 5th, '06, 17:02

Thank you abraxus, I appreciate the comment :)
I'll have to have a look into that book, and see if I can find it anywhere. I found a way of completing it the other day and performed it for a few people, and got amazing reactions. Definately some of the best I have seen when performing tricks myself. I'm really pleased with this :)

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