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I dont know who I should tell about this but I found a site exposing tricks and I am positive they are breaching peoples copyright. I wont mention the name of the site but should I pm a mod or just let it go?

Maybe a quick email to the creators of the effects that they are exposing? A hefty lawsuit is enough to stop anyone in their tracks!

Im not to sure who to email mate because they are exposing so much its unreal.

If it is a specific Magician who is being ripped off then email them.

cheers Ill get on to them asap mate. If I had made any of them I would be well ticked off for want of an expletive or three.

Interesting and obviously potentially dangerous (although if they are showing advanced techniques then it is not going to be disadvantageous to the magic community as most things will be over the head of most lay persons).

However, I again take issue with the point that creators of effects should forever be financially credited with them. Fine if it is a significant body of work, but why is it ok for somone to produce a DVD showing an effect (novel or otherwise) and not for magicians to exchange techniques over the net?

And again the secrecy wrt this site. How can we judge whether it is appropriate or not without being able to view it? Perhaps a PM from the mods to all the members who are "trusted" (you can exclude me from this category if you like) and then we can make our own minds up and object to the place en masse, which would carry more weight.

I am in the process of closing 2 right now. Contacting the web site hosts, the effect creators, and the site owners.

apparently there are the 7 laws of magic

whichmeans in order to sell or claim an effect as your own you need to have at least differences:

e.g. ----- different name

so teachnical if the site explaiins the secret in their own words there is no breach off copyright and this is a loophole in the law which if frequently exploited.

so realy there is nothing you can do about it, but there's no harm in trying

krazy ace wrote:apparently there are the 7 laws of magic

whichmeans in order to sell or claim an effect as your own you need to have at least differences:

e.g. ----- different name

so teachnical if the site explaiins the secret in their own words there is no breach off copyright and this is a loophole in the law which if frequently exploited.

so realy there is nothing you can do about it, but there's no harm in trying

It is still a forum of plagerism. since it wasnt their origianl idea, they got it from some where else. And plagerism is not a something you want to do, it can get you in deep trouble.

and if they give credit to the original creater, then that gives the creater a right to get them. Since they were not given permission.

"And plagerism is illegal. "

Erm no. Plagiarism per se isn't illegal. Breach of copyright is illegal.

A point of pedantry no doubt, accurate nonetheless.

that's what i was trying to explain

Jeeze fletch you seem some weird guy. Do you call yourself a 'magician'? You seem to be protecting nothing apart from your opinion, not magic at all.

I'm pretty sure i know which site you're talking about now, if it isn't then theres another one which exposes LOADS of magic, from all magicians and DVDs. I saw it have a tutorial section, and then you only need 10 posts to get it! Jeeze. Anyway, i made 10 posts to make sure they wree little tricks like using marker cards or maybe the balducci but i was shocked that they even try to get everybody to exspose tricks posted by users.

Maybe we could get a petiton going? I also know that wikipedia expose a great deal of magic and i was banned on one username for deleteing some pages that exposed some effects that cost loads. They say that magic can't be copyrighted and everybody has the right to know how tricks are donr.

As far as I'm aware this is a magic discussion forum rather than a protection society. Let's be accurate, however.

And I'm not talking about any site in particular or in general. Haven't seen 'em. Hence I'm unable to condemn them one way or the other. Seems others are. Obviously must be mentalists in the real sense of the word. Wow.

haven't heard or seen one but if i google it i might get something (but i won't)

fletch wrote:"And plagerism is illegal. "

Erm no. Plagiarism per se isn't illegal. Breach of copyright is illegal.

A point of pedantry no doubt, accurate nonetheless.

okay, my mistake,

you can still be sued for it, kicked out of any college for it, and fired from a job for it. i guess thats what i ment. its a big no no in the business world.