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Ok I to had a few problems getting the count right, just about got there now, but have lost the NFW instructions can anyone pm them to me?

Thanks

siege. please can you tell me how to access your words of wisdom? i tried to PM you but maybe it didnt get through.

there are excellent intsructions for the elmsley count in 'techno card magic' by daniel Rhod aswell as many other sleights, plus its only about £7. its well worth it.