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The tosh I am 100% sure was mentioned by Brad from Ellusionist.

I'm not sure if he said ultra-thin cards or super-thin cards.

If I find that video I'll tell what trick that was.

EDIT: Googled and found this:
http://www.manipulationcards.com/
http://www.magicworld.co.uk/magic-shop/catalog/Manipulation-Cards-Super-Thin-p-83.html

He isn't doubting that they exist. Rather, he's saying that trying to use them as a crutch for a 'problem' like this is slightly bonkers thinking. A bit like that bloke who was here recently who wanted to rough and smooth a whole deck to help out with double-lifts.

I agree with dat8962.

But why are some people replying to this trick, that haven't bought it?
I think those that bought it, and are unsure if it can be performed in public, they should play it again to see what you missed out.
And for those that haven't bought it, I think either they should buy it or let the ones that have bought it do the replies about it.

Replying to the initial question: yes, it can be done if you mind the angles.

PS. Erm... I actually didn't buy it... he he he... But I got if as a free bonus from Brad Christian @ ellusionist, because they messed up an order.

gunnarkr wrote:But why are some people replying to this trick, that haven't bought it?

I think it's possible to reply to this:

Doing it with "normal" cards will reveal everything. Just how can you make 5 cards appear as one - pentalifts??? You must be kidding me

without buying the trick. I could be wrong, but no-one's told me that what I'm saying isn't relevant yet.

Quite true Charles and I'm not criticising you.

I think this is not an issue and I think DMW has been reveiling more than he should have in an open forum. Mercury is done with normal cards and can be done with borrowed cards too. It works if you follow the guidlines.

When I viewed the video for the first time, I thought to myself: Awwww... this can't be pulled off. Then I tried it in front of a mirror and later I tried it on one of my sons and it works

I'm on the verge of buying it now because of this thread. I'll have a look at the demo tonight (if BT Yahoo have got their act together yet).

This effect is really easy to perform. As mentioned, forefinger along the edge of the cards, angled downwards slightly. And RELAX, people are not suspecting a thing. Do what David says if it is crowded, get down, stoop down so you are almost kneeling. I have done this many times, especially if you are performing for a crowd. People dont ask why you are down there, they are watchin your hands. You just need to relax, people look where you look, and as hard as you do. You relax and do the moves naturally, people will relax and wont suspect anything fishy

gunnarkr wrote:But why are some people replying to this trick, that haven't bought it?.

Erm...quite simply because I have done things like this before and know it can be done...

It is an easy effect to perform and one that you should pick up rather quickly.

There are a number of varients taught on the DVD is so much as some of the different presentation cover how to ditch cards etc.

You'll be surprised how easy it is to present five cards as one of you get the angles and presentation right and this is with a normal deck of cards. The one thing that I will say is that it's obviously much better with new cards. The newer the better but that's perfectly acceptable in my book. by the way, the DVD makes no mention whatsoever about using anything other than normal decks (other than a presentation using some Ghosts).

I hope that this clears up a few things.

I think DMW has been reveiling more than he should have in an open forum.

I'm extremely sorry if I've gone too far. Although I know the rules of this forum and I try my best to abide with them.

But I believed that I have revealed(?) so little - just one part regarding 5 cards, that by just that information no one can pull the trick. Its more complex than that.
But that was the least that can be said to explain why its not possible.
I mean I just can't have said that No, its impossible to do that trick
So I gave that explanation with least I can reveal, although if I have gone too far then I beg my pardon and will edit it out from all posts if the Mods want me to.

And thanks to all people, now I'm getting the nerves to do it in front of people after reading the posts.

Dead Man Walking wrote:I believe that there is no possible way to pull that out without getting caught.

Not true at all!

Dead Man Walking wrote:Perhaps you can do this by using ultra-thin cards.

Not necessary!

Dead Man Walking wrote:Doing it with "normal" cards will reveal everything.

Not true either!

Dead Man Walking wrote:People never remember your success and never forget your failures.

Ah... that can be true!

Dead Man Walking wrote:I have never performed that trick on spectators yet. I just don't have the nerves to pull such a trick and get caught.

Did you buy a DVD or did you buy a direct download to learn from?

Gotta second what Gunmakr said here. If done correctly, they are no problems with this effect. It is strong.

@gunnarkr with all respect,

In first quote: I believe that there is no possible way to pull that out without getting caught.
I believe

In second quote: Perhaps you can do this by using ultra-thin cards.
Perhaps

In third quote: Doing it with "normal" cards will reveal everything.
although not written there, but its also what I believe

In fourth quote: Well, we atleast agree on one thing.

Did you buy a DVD or did you buy a direct download to learn from?

Direct Download.

I think that it would have been better if you had quoted the entire paragraph and then provided your suggestions.
As I tried to give some explanations on why I believe what I believe.

So that I won't be stoned for have not tried the trick yet speaking against it.
It is a brilliant trick indeed.

I mean please re-read your post with a neutral point of view and as if you have not read my post earlier.

Thanks with all due respect.