One Handed Top Palm

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One Handed Top Palm

Postby Johnny Bravo » Nov 8th, '06, 06:15



Can anyone advise me of a decent book or better still video or DVD that goes into good detail on the one handed top palm. I remember coming acros this ages ago when I was at a real beginners stage & couldn't palm a card at all.
Now I'd like to do this & I understand the method behind it but to me my fingers just kinda lock the deck...

Any advice peeps? Thanks.

By the way using the search I searched one hand top palm, one hand palm, one handed top palm etc & found nowt, soz I did try, I do find the search on this site a bit hit & miss :?

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Postby Charles Calthrop » Nov 8th, '06, 10:41

PMed you.

Also try The Very Best of Jay Sankey vol 3 or Revolutionary Card Magic by Sankey.
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Postby IanKendall » Nov 8th, '06, 11:12

I've got a lesson for the Virtual Sessions that will be up soon, probably on Friday.

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Postby mark lewis » Nov 8th, '06, 12:36

There is a description of it in one of the Jean Hugard books entitled "Card Manipulations" Or perhaps it was "More Card Manipulations" Unfortunately I can't remember which volume. If you are really desperate I could make the effort and find out. A Dover publication anyway.

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Postby Charles Calthrop » Nov 8th, '06, 12:48

You might be thinking of the description in Expert Card Technique, but it's not the friendliest/most helpful description in existence. If I remember correctly it goes something like 'Here's a good way to replace a palmed card. Now, see those illustrations? Well, do that backwards and you've got a method for a one-handed top palm'. Maybe it's in one of the Manipulation books too though - I've never owned those.

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Postby IanKendall » Nov 8th, '06, 13:41

It's the first item in Card Manipulations Volume 1.

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Postby I.D » Nov 8th, '06, 14:05

Yeh the one handed top palm is a bu**er. Ive been putting in intense practice for about a week now to try and get it down so I can do the card to pocket from Sankeys best Volume 2 ( I think ).

Anyway a weeks solid practice and this is where Im at. The card is pushed forward and to the right and flies off the deck!! Thats it!! :lol: Sometimes taking the cards below with it.. if it feels like it!!

When I do get it ''almost'' right.. it flies off to the right and I manage to use my extraordinary muscular strength to stop it and pull it back. The my middle fingers get all De'vo and bend in an arch like a yoga instructor, then.. in the lamest fashion you can imagine.. the card sits up like a dog on heat.. but cant help peeking out the side.. so I use my index finger to straighten it up..

Thats all good however... in the time it takes me to do the above one hand palm.. I've shown my left hand empty like.. 23 times!! :lol:

Its weird because I can do John Hartmans pop out move one handed.. without breaking a sweat.. it took me 25 mins to get it down and its a much harder move IMO ( thinking of what is involved !! )

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Postby IanKendall » Nov 8th, '06, 15:46

If the card is swinging out to the right, then you are most likely pushing too far forward with your little finger. Try pressing the fingertip closer to the edge of the card.

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Postby I.D » Nov 8th, '06, 16:06

My finger is right on the edge of the deck, and nothing happens when i push forward.. i have to push out to the right to get it to kind of lever over the edge of the deck.

Maybe my middle fingers are too fat :?

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Postby TylerD » Nov 10th, '06, 00:58

Charles Calthrop wrote:PMed you.

Also try The Very Best of Jay Sankey vol 3 or Revolutionary Card Magic by Sankey.
It doesn't come quickly. The only way to get there is try and fail a good few hundred times. Then it starts to get easier. Good luck.

Agreed Sankey breaks it down real nice. And if I am not mistaking he teaches it in Sankey 45 quite well I think.

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Postby timlic » Nov 10th, '06, 05:41

I know it's all about practise and learning moves slowly at first - but I'm getting quite frustrated at the one-handed top palm!

I think I'm having the same probs as everyone else... Couple of questions though - I'm right handed, I take it it's easier to do it in the hand you write with? And, when I pop the card up, the rest of the cards fall onto the floor below!! I've tried different grips, but my hand just seems to let go.

Can anyone PM me with any tips?

Thanks in advance

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Postby Swest » Nov 10th, '06, 12:26

Try this - rather than focussing on pushing the card out to the right with your pinky finger (assuming you are using your right hand), think of it as a combination of movement - your pinky finger pushes out and a little forward, whilst your thumb at the inner end of the deck swings out to the left a little. Using a combination of these two movements should make it a little easier. When it starts getting easier, try and reduce the movement of the thumb as this can look a little conspicuous. Let me know if this helps!

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Postby I.D » Nov 10th, '06, 13:58

Got it :D

What I was doing was using the very tip of the little finger to get the card to push off the deck, naturally there was grip on the tip of the little finger.

What I am now doing is using the tip of the finger to push the card just off the deck, then re-adjusting by sliding my little finger so the first phalange rests on the card. Now by applying pressure the card shoots up half way between the deck and my palm. Now I can use my little finger to push it up into position. This is done all looking very natural and quickly.. just needs practice to fine tune this.

This may not be the correct method, but its working for me. I was also find that the back of the card wouldnt lift because it was pushing up against the flesh of my thumb, which I why I had to push out to the side to clear this

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