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Im learning this move but i find that the bottom card comes out with a noticable bend. Am i buckling the bottom card too much? I have a hard time getting it over my left forefinger as i push it off. Im using poker size cards but im a girl so i have small hands. Would bridge size work better, i can find bicycle bridge-sized cards.

It is hard to tell without seeing you do it what you are doing wrong. I would suggest that maybe you try other cards if you need to. But the important thing is to find what is most comfortable for you and what works best. Just practice. If you don't get it right away that is perfectly fine. Sit infront of the mirror for hours everyday.

Personally, I have quite small hands. But I still manage well with a regular sized poker deck. You might just have to put in a little bit more effort.

I don't get the problem of the card buckling because by the time I've pushed the card over to the over side of the deck the buckle I created to get a hold of the card has gone.
I create the buckle at the point that the person has selected their card & I find this causes me a problem as this pushes the buckled card to out to the right & I have to be careful/work on this...

It's a lovely force when viewed by Mr Sankey (where I came across it) but no way I would do it, although its one of those things I do work on while watching telly.

I cant get this move down. I buckle the bottom card and I just cant get it over to the right.. new or old decks.. it either takes more than one card or when I buckle the bottom card.. the cards above it fly out.. its just a mess.. Its a beautiful force, and one which would suit me I can think of loads of applications for it.

I too find this a problem - and agreed, it would be a great move to use! I think there's something I'm not getting because i don't see what you have to push against when pushing the buckled card over - if your fingers stay on the right side of the deck, they get in the way of the card!

When I do it I spread the cards from right hand to left.
Thus when the person selects their card I have the majority of the deck lodged between the fleshy bit of my thumb & index finger as in dealers grip.

My 1st & 2nd finger which are underneath the deck kinda scrape at the cards, sometimes using my nails so I can detect the very bottom card & once I'm sure I have the bottom card only I push it toward that fleshy bit of my hand which gives it something to buckle against.

For me this bit is the problem as this card inevitably push too far to the right & a small amount out from the spread.

I have by this point seperated the cards so that the selected card is on the top of the right hand pile. Then as I would say "this card" I bring my left hand over with the rest of the cards which are still in a ribbon spread state & take their selected card while at the same time pushing the bottom card over underneath.

To push the bottom card over I just use the 1st & 2nd fingers which have buckled it & then grab it with my left 3rd finger.

I then tap the left hand pile on top & on the side to square up thus hiding any inconsistancies. Oh & I make sure the deck is kept very angled down to hide those underneath movements.

As I said above I can do this fairly well bar the one problem of the buckled card pushing to the right but I'm not 100% on it which is why I have never used it bar on my kids who immediatly spotted it

I don't actually buckle the bottom card.....I dribble the cards from right to left.

With the dribbled portion in my left hand, palm up, I extend my fingers out to the right hand side and sort of pinch the edges.....I find this lifts the underside left edge of the cards so that I can easily clip them with my right two fingers (in a sandwich type of grip) and is purely a pull of the card out off the bottom while using my left thumb to square the card they actually stopped at on the top.

All the while I make a large move.....sort of as if showing the entire table that this is the card the selected. This helps cover the smaller move that I described above.....

Hope this helps someone, somehow!?!?!?!

Hi guys,

Just to say that I really got this move down and have produced a tutorial video, in the tutorial file sharing part of the restricted area. Apologies to anyone who has bought the video but hasn't got restricted access yet, it was the only way I could think of to keep it out of public domain