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Postby Renato » May 12th, '06, 16:18



He's got style, and I quite liked his performing character, it was like 'this is who I am, let's get on with the magic'. I couldn't believed the breaks in the ACR, and especially in the first effect he did, I saw the move in the S*** F****. Still, some interesting stuff. Especially the title too.

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Postby Tomo » May 12th, '06, 16:36

So, the consensus is that thaumaturgy it wasn't. Oh well. Not to worry. Plenty of time yet. Maybe it will mean extra interest in the art, and some extra trade through the online magic shops. Anything that gets young people doing something interesting with their brains is okay by me. Let's face it, none of the chavs on the street are really gangsta rappers; they're just kids in the dressing up box. But some might start to do magic, which is at least achievable, damned cool, and possibly even profitable ;)

I wonder if young Dynamo's been ego surfing today? :|

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Postby dat8962 » May 12th, '06, 18:34

As you say, plenty of time yet, or NOT :?

I watched and had mixed feelings. To start with, he looked pretty good to me with the tricks that he performed but you just have to look at the reactions that he got from his specs. They seemed to be pretty freaked out by most of what he did and that's what counts at the end of the day. They're the type of reactions that we all want.

I didn't think much of his presentation myself but then if sort of fitted into the environment that he was performing in. Trouble is that he will grow out of this scene and if he doesn't improve his presentation then he probably won't survive past the stage of adolescence into performing to adults. In a number of years the 19/20 year won't don't really want a 25-30 year old hanging out with them and people that are of his age now will have probebly moved on too.

I'm sure that he will get a TV slot again in the not too distant future and we'll have to wait and see how he progresses. Good luck to him.

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Postby foz » May 12th, '06, 20:58

Did`nt think it was that good.....the editing was quite bad and i was surprised that the specs did`nt rumble him on some tricks...

It seemed very much like a poor mans david blaine....(even though hes lost the plot)

I think he could have done a much better job......maybe he needs some backup people to help devolop tricks and ideas for performance...
(David blaine - derren brown and most tv magians have a team of very clever magicians...coming up with ideas for them to work with..)


It was a good attempt if it was all his idea`s and format.....
(he probaly done a better job than i could so hats off....)

I would have worked my nuts off to come up with more original ideas as the show seemed to me a little bit like.."seen it all before...." done better...

Just my ramble...

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Postby magicman0000 » May 12th, '06, 22:21

he flashed on the acr bad his breaks like already mentioned and he flahsed his ahser twist as well , alos he didnt credit any oen and pretty much everythin he did had already been done by blaine but apart from dat it waz gd 8)

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Postby Mark Smith » May 13th, '06, 00:51

Yeh, it was highly unoriginal. In fact it almost angers me that someone who is clearly just performing gimmicked tricks straight from the box can get his own tv show. I'd love to do that! I think I'd better lower my standards and just perform packet tricks to make a living! Worked for him.
He really needs to develop some more original ideas, simply copying others tricks and presentations can only get you so far. I love to see original thinkers, even if it is just a new take on an old trick. Here, however, I just got the impression that he had learnt the tricks parrot-fashion from the instructions, practiced on his gran and headed out onto the streets.
Anyone could do that. It was, for me, a little cringe-worthy at times, just compounding the image people have of magic; with the little guy walking about at the party trying to look cool with some naff props. It just wasn't striking enough for me and was, dare I say it, even a little tacky...
Lets hope he bucks his ideas up and brings us something startling!

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Postby kalyalien » May 13th, '06, 00:56

i agree with Mark on this one... good skills but a distinct lack of persona i think. I have spoken to Chris and he's genuine, not sure of the angle on "estate of mind". It's different so it will get people watching.

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Postby catweasel » May 13th, '06, 18:08

like all things in life there are plenty of masters in the art that will never receive any recognition while others seem to just hit it lucky.
the difference is that dynamo set out to be big from the outset and was helped somewhat by a flagging city desperately in need of an ego boost with local newspapers jumping on anything that could create a story.

i believe he will achieve his goal.

i am from the same city as him and know that he spent many years outside local nightclubs entertaining for free and more importantly practicing his audience management skills.

he was at the right places at the right times and got to know all the 'right' people so good luck to him, its easy for those 'in the know' to knock him, but all magicians will benefit in someway in the end due to increased interest in all things magical.

packet tricks may not interest pros but they do seem to impress laypeople so what the heck?
i couldnt believe a vernet tt would fool anyone when i first purchased my little plastic miracle device a few years ago but hey!,its the best £3 i ever spent! i have even used it to 'vanish' a cigarette craving during a brief hypno session with someone so presentation is everything and we missed that aspect of dynamo's magic due to the 'fast' editing of the show.

the king is dead, long live the king!



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Postby stick » Nov 20th, '06, 22:53

I thought this program was a total waste of perfectly good video tape
I have come across this guy at several conventions, and yes he is technically ok and has done well to get on tv .
basically it comes down to being in the right place at the right time

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Postby russellmagic » Nov 20th, '06, 23:24

as in another thread i started i saw him in davenports recently loving himself. i mean its good to be confident. the guy is very good with the xtreme card moves.

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Postby dat8962 » Nov 21st, '06, 20:36

Hot tip for the magic competition........ My money is on the Boss (James Brown)! :lol:

I saw him lecture last week and it's one of the best lectures that I've seen to date. Highly recommended if you get a chance!

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Postby russellmagic » Nov 21st, '06, 20:42

thats the way im thinking, this guy is great. will def purchase hid dvd soon as poss! :)

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Postby Tomo » Nov 22nd, '06, 00:37

dat8962 wrote:Hot tip for the magic competition........ My money is on the Boss (James Brown)! :lol:

Having seen the way he comes across in his demo, there's something engaging that I don't feel Dynamo has developed.

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Postby russellmagic » Nov 22nd, '06, 00:49

personality :lol:

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Postby Mahoney » Nov 22nd, '06, 01:41

To be honest I don't particularly like either of their performance styles (if that is what we are discussing). James is a brilliant magician, but his performance style is rather cocky I feel. Dynamo's presentation, on the other hand, is jut boring, but he is obviously technically good. James' dvd is great but I must say, I found it hard to watch. Maybe I am wrong, but that is how I felt. Dynamo, I don't really enjoy. His tricks are good, but that's all he does. He just does the trick and that is that.

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