Help please

Struggling with an effect? Any tips (without giving too much away!) you'd like to share?

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Help please

Postby killerfroggy » Dec 6th, '06, 05:11



Hi all i havent posted in a while but Ive been busy. I recently have been trying to learn the pass and while I am nowhere near able to do it well I have been doing something wierd with it. I am not sure if anyone else does the same thing which is why im asking here. During the pass action I am reversing the selected card and placing it in the middle instead of bringing it to the top which I feel would be a good effect if i can get the move down fast enough which I am at nowhere near at the minute. I could make a video of the effect but i think it would expose to much at the minute. I could send a mod the video and see if im just using someone elses handling or Ive made something of my own. Any help on the matter would be appreciated.

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Dec 6th, '06, 10:39

I've seen this done a few times. When done well it looks really good.

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Postby Marvell » Dec 6th, '06, 11:01

Are you actually passing the deck when you do the reverse or just doing the reverse in situ?

I've seen one and worked out another method of doing this. It really is tricky. I'm not sure I'm quite at the level to pass that off (no pun intended) in public yet.

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Postby killerfroggy » Dec 6th, '06, 11:07

I am passing the bottom of the deck to the top but the selected card stays in the middle but gets reversed in the process. I just wanted to know if anyone else did it and im glad im not the only one. I am going to put the move into use in my ambitious card routine once I truly have it down but it could be used in many ways. My pass itself is pretty awful and I sort of stumbled onto the effect by accident.

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Postby XTTX » Dec 6th, '06, 11:15

I believe Daniel Garcia does passes like this ( I'm not quite sure. I believe I saw it in his The Daniel Garcia Project)

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Postby seige » Dec 6th, '06, 11:22

Hmmm sounds like a variation of a half-pass to me, a sort of half-pass with a pass built in.

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Re: Help please

Postby Kolisar » Dec 8th, '06, 00:43

killerfroggy wrote:During the pass action I am reversing the selected card and placing it in the middle instead of bringing


If you first did this by accident, I think I know what you are talking about. That happened to me when I was learning the pass, and was very amused to see, what I did accidently, written up in a book somewhere. I have never seen it done smoothly enough to be used but it would pretty good if you can do it.

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Postby Scott Daly » Dec 8th, '06, 01:30

When I was hammering the pass, the selected card always had a tendancy to end up reversed on the bottom of the pack, it was sort of a slip cut from the middle. try slight adjustments to the pressure of you left fingers (assuming you're right handed, and make sure your hands are dry (not sticky!)

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