Dai Vernon's Triumph

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Postby Soren Riis » Dec 14th, '06, 21:32



This is an effect I perform and have performed for a number of years!

Sorry I am quite opionionated, but I did NOT like this performance! This is probable how I performed it when I just learned it and though people kind of liked it, they where never really gob smaked!!

The first major problem is when the face up and face down cards are riffled into each other. In the video clip the guy does NOT use Vernons way of shuffeling the two halves together. It is crucial that the spectators are absolutely convinced that everything is above board. Watching the video it is clear something fishy happens (though it is not clear what).

Secondly, Vernons display of creating an illusion of face up into face down cards have to be done differently. The details is discussed on the Dai Vernon tapes. Of course today most magicians prefer to use a verson of the Daryl display that remove any doubt that the cards are messed up face up into face down in a random pattern.

Next when the cards are displayed it is important to remember how to spread out the cards. A few years ago I performed this effect for
Roberto Giobbi (won special FISM awards for excellence 1988 and 1991) and he pointed out that it is important to separate the two effects.
First spead out the cards without revieling the selection that is turned over. Let this effect tink in. Then when you get the reaction speard out the card a bit further in the middle and display the turned over selection.

Since Roberto's advice - I always made sure to get this right, and believe me the reaction I get when I perform the effect today is much stronger than when I began doing the effect.

A very nice feature of the effect is that with a slightly different handeling, one can maintain a 8-K s**** or any other s****

Thus Triumph is an excellent opener. There are also a number of nice version of triump that can be done while strolling.

Finally recently I watched Michael Vincent do an extremely impressive version of Triumph I am not sure has yet been published... Does it appear on his DVDs for professional card magicians?

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Postby russellmagic » Dec 14th, '06, 22:17

michael ammars easy to master card miracles dvds have triumph on it. i use this all the time. one of my signature effects. never fails. awesome

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Postby Soren Riis » Dec 14th, '06, 22:52

You can find Triump on "Easy to master Card Miracles" VOL 1 by Michael Ammar.

Triump appears on "Commercial Classics" VOL 2 by Johhy Thompson.

The effect and Vernons original handeling and patter is discussed on
Dai Vernons revelations VOL 1.

Finally, the Daryl display is covered on one of Ackermans videos/DVD (unfortunately I cannot rember which the top on my head), but this display significantly improve the impact of triumph. A number of other magicans have tried to change and improve the display so it looks more sloppy, but I do not think the sloppy handleling add to the magic.

"Commercial Classics" VOL 1-4 by Johhy Thompson is absolutely outstanding and contains some of the best effects (that have stood the test of time) in close up magic.

Thompsons performance is flawless and it is painful to see the amateurs mishandle many of these very good effects on You Tupe.

Please only perform a magic trick when you have practed it propertly and you are able to perfrom it correct.

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Postby Mage Tyler » Dec 15th, '06, 00:44

While this is not the best handling or presentation, and while I really dislike 99.9% of magic on YouTube.....

I have to at least say that the video-maker was able enough not to expose the secret (tho it's clear when and where something fishy is happening) and from the rest of his videos doesn't seem to be handing secrets out ...

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Postby Marvell » Dec 15th, '06, 09:46

Dirty Davey wrote:yup it's in there, the self reversing pack on page 144


Thanks for the reference, but it's hardly the same magnitude as Triumph.

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Dec 15th, '06, 11:31

Markdini wrote:Ah Davey I see what you mean that it is like Triumph that the cards right them selfs, but in Dai Vernons effect a selected card is shown face up once the pack has been spread out.


Davey's right it is in there, but I think he might have put down the wrong trick, I think Mark calls it Self Reversing Pack Improved or something similar to that. I think it's the trick after the one Davey mentioned. The effect is the same, the pack is mixed face up and face down. All the cards then right themselves except the specs chosen card.

There were a few problems with the performance on the video, he makes too much out of the face up and face down cards being mixed. Takes way too long to find the point where the cards are back to back, it's dead easy to find and really should only take one attempt. But with some work I'm sure it'll get there.

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Postby macos » Dec 16th, '06, 01:24

Yea I agree with you Soren. Alot of things lacking in the performance. Altough I'm still practicing the trick I think I could do it better then that fella :D . What comes to Dai Vernons verision. He doesnt cut it to the top like in this vid. And the reversal of the top packet shouldn't be pointed out. He talks about a meeting point when he reverses it and theres quite much fumbling with the cards. I think this really is a trick where simplicity makes the magic. If you take that away it becomes more card manipulation then magic in the eyes of the spectator.
I watched a very impressive triumph some days ago and still have no clue how it was performed, cant recall the performer though :? .

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Postby bronz » Dec 18th, '06, 14:52

I thought it was good up to the point where he was showing that all the cards were randomly face up and face down, he came unstuck a bit there didn't he? The funny business wasn't quite perfect granted, but in real performance I expect he uses a bit of misdirection there. I perform this version of Triumph often and after spending quite some time agonising over that particular move I decided to just go ahead and do it. Never gets spotted.

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Postby greedoniz » Dec 18th, '06, 15:43

There is Oz Pearlmans version named Emerge Triumphant which looks like a great version.
It is only available on penguinmagic as a download as far as I know.

http://www.penguinmagic.com/product.php?ID=794

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Postby bronz » Dec 18th, '06, 19:36

Emerge Triumphant is also on Oz's Watch Magic dvd (nothing to do with timepieces) of which I am the proud owner and really should write a review for. Essentially the handling is very similar to the Vernon Triumph with a few differences, the plot is more or less the same.

I'll write a review of Watch Magic soon as it's a great dvd.

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