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i like my way of doing the trick because it give me more room to make sure i dont mess up on getting the coin into the can but i did make one mistake if you look closely. if i had a microphone then you wouldent be looks any were neer there or even better if you were there... but i did my best with what i could do.

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-2939422754353466867

I'll PM you tomorrow (1 a.m. here and I have to get up in 5 and a half hours) because your presentation on part * needs work but I would give away the main thing in the trick if I even pointed out the part of the movie it is in.

~David

Your way might be easier for you to perform the effect - but while it may benefit the technical side of things for you, it does nothing for the performance side.

In my opinion, the way you opted to handle the penetration at the very beginning of the completely dispells any effect you're trying to achieve.

The coin is completely out of sight for quite a few seconds. This alone opens the floodgates for countless explanations. Not to mention - you look like you're fiddling with it here. This is supposed to be a quick BAM and it's gone. I don't want to sound rude - but the way you're doing this could actually tip the method to some of the more observant people out there.

Your handling after the penetration is incredibly awkward. Watch this video again from a spectators' point of view. They're not always looking at the can - and thus - your presentation should be made to pull heat off of your hands.

You fiddle quite a bit, and the can is neither held, moved, nor displayed in any kind of natural motion. Every move looks suspicious. The flash is the deal breaker - but that's a minor point.

The biggest problem here isn't your hands or the awkward handling of the can. Your biggest problem - and one that even the lay-est of laypeople might notice throughout:

What are you looking at?

Your eyes give up the game with every display of the can. True - focus WILL be on the can for most of the effect - but you cannot let other things that seem unimportant to BECOME important - and therefore a path to discovery. It's very clear what you're doing and where you're doing it at all times, because your eyes are going right where you don't want our eyes to go.

Beyond anything - this effect relies on confidence, feel and natural movements. Wayne himself has adopted a more flashy handling - which suits his style. Perhaps take note of some of the things Criss Angel says on the DVD. He opts for a more casual and "everyday" handling of the can. You don't have to be flashy here. If your vanish is handled well - and your display of the can is clean and smooth - this effect kills without a hint of flash or dazzle.

One final thing - after you open the can - don't do whatever it was that you did there. Even though you DIDN'T drop the coin in at that moment there - a spectator might think you did. This is a minor point, and probably just something you did at this particular moment. However, thats another thing you need to keep in mind for performances.

My advice for you would be to continue working with the original handling of the effect. I don't think you're quite there yet, and as a result your variations are unrefined and detrimental to the overall performance.

Your original video of this effect is far superior to this one. Go back and look at both of them and compare.

I don't think you did that bad of a job with this one but you looked a little stiff when you were performing it. As Demitri said, the hand movement above the can when you opened it springs all kind of possible to soloutions into the audience's mind. Main one being that you just dropped the coin in. With a tiny bit more work you'll nail it no doubt

Sam

agree with demitri on this. the first part looked way to suspect. you got to go with the criss way. this is a brilliant trick, don't ruin it and spend the hours practising it and you will have an effect that will scare people!!

like i said... i do it bad on the camera...

Demitri wrote:In my opinion, the way you opted to handle the penetration at the very beginning of the completely dispells any effect you're trying to achieve.

The coin is completely out of sight for quite a few seconds. This alone opens the floodgates for countless explanations. Not to mention - you look like you're fiddling with it here. This is supposed to be a quick BAM and it's gone. I don't want to sound rude - but the way you're doing this could actually tip the method to some of the more observant people out there.

Agree with the above 100%

No offence but I suggest you watch Criss Angel's DVD performance and try and perform it the same way he does. I know it's already been said, but some of your handling looked very awkward and unnatural in places

if you know you did it badly, then why did you put it on here. not to be nasty but surely you should perfect an effect before you put it on here otherwise you will get bad feedback of others. all feedback is good as constructive to you. if people tell you your effect sucks it shows you gotta improve it. but if they tell you its good you still have to thrive to make it better than anyone else, this is why there are so many different versions of a particular effect, for example the coin in bottle.

the only bad thing is looking at the screen when you do the effect because it makes you look suspicious. Also when you flip the can over to show the bottom still sealed, you should do it loosely.

I'll leave the criticism to those that know better than myself or those that already have the trick. However, I do have one minor point I'd like to share.

I'm sure that you did this for the presentation of the effect on a video without audio and solely to prove that the coin was *in* the can, so likely the next piece of advice is not for you.

But for anyone else doing this trick and looking to pick up some presentation ideas:

Do not, under any circumstances (if you can at all help it), allow the coin to exit the top of the can (and certainly do not facilitate it). The removal of the quarter by some excessive means "proves" to the spec that the coin can't fit.

Aluminum is hard on knives, so keep a spare one around just for this purpose, or use a can opener.

(Edit to further obscure method)

the most important tip I can give is just relax. I'd stick with the original vanish, in my opinion it's much more 'magical' than yours. You hands are out of sight for way too long, any spec is going to think you've either lapped or palmed it.

I don't own the trick but have a really good guess for how its done (quite simple) if u would like to know (Details removed by Mods - we don't do that sort of thing on TM)

Oh god not another one , No one will email you and ask,

I felt that you looked nervous and that your facial expressions were hiding someit...Still a good an effective trick but relax take time and practise it more and more

I personally would do it in the mirror when performing it try to look amazed at your self as if "huh" where did it go

did'nt care for this method at all. Try Wayne Houchins way, its the best.

Your going to want to practice that can inspection part ALOT before doing it for people. I could tell you had the quarter pretty easily.