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Some color changes.

Postby Speed » Jan 3rd, '07, 21:21



Decided to make some color change vid, i know my snap change isnt good.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=JvYpQeNIAj4

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Postby i1011i » Jan 4th, '07, 02:03

I think that both the Shapeshifter and the Erdnase needs work. There are some subtleties that are key to pulling off both. I have never understood where the school of thought came from that you should "push out the card" to be changed. Especially to the degree you do, and leave it. Though, it is still executed excellently.

As for the shapeshifter, I think it almost borders on exposure. It just seems like your version of it exaggerates what should be covered up. You are actually doing it backwards.

The snap change was actually OK, the lag in the camera helped you out with it. And the Fan change was beautiful.

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Postby Speed » Jan 4th, '07, 10:59

i1011i wrote:
As for the shapeshifter, I think it almost borders on exposure. It just seems like your version of it exaggerates what should be covered up. You are actually doing it backwards.


Yeh, i know i do it like that way, thoguht first it was like that way and I'm still doing it like that. And if you do it like i do, cant get it enough fast than in rightway i know that. In my shapeshifter #4 I'm doing the second change right way. This text might be confusing to read cause my english isnt great.

E: And yes i know about the erdnase, i cant do it yet it looks like i dont push the card, and i like to do in that way. But i will practise to do it to look good.
Thanx for that comment.

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Jan 4th, '07, 10:59

The fan change is brilliant, good work and well done on that one.

Keep working on the shapeshifter and erdnase, I like to finish this with the pack still square. Keep working on them and you'll get there.

Oh by the way, I love those pink cards. :D

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Postby LeftEye » Jan 4th, '07, 14:08

The Shapeshifter needed a bit of work but I dont think a layman would have spotted it.

I do my Erdanase like you do. I used to to it on smaller cards and just couldnt get the hang of it. Now I have a bigger pack it helps but I know I need more practise :)

You fan change was excellent though. I did enjoy watching that I thought it was great.

As for the music... Catchy :D

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Postby Speed » Jan 4th, '07, 19:00

Made new erdnase vid, is this betta?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0riY6hcQzo

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Postby majortom » Jan 4th, '07, 19:01

i1011i wrote: I have never understood where the school of thought came from that you should "push out the card" to be changed. Especially to the degree you do, and leave it. Though, it is still executed excellently.


Absolutely.

The Erdnase change is the easiest, and therefore most commonly performed colour change. It's the one everybody learns first.

It's such a beautiful illusion when done properly. I find myself constantly giving advice on it, commenting on peoples videos of half practiced moves (sorry to be so critical, I'm not just talking about this one Speed, to be fair, yours isn't too bad).

We need to protect the Erdnase change. Or at least nail down some concrete guidelines on avoiding the pitfalls into which, many fall.

Maybe some sort of specific Erdnase support group???

Anyone with me on this?

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Postby majortom » Jan 4th, '07, 19:02

Speed wrote:Made new erdnase vid, is this betta?


Much BETTER :wink:

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Postby Speed » Jan 4th, '07, 19:41

Thanx, i will keep practising untill its perfect mirror of illusion. Lol that just sound funny. :wink:

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Postby i1011i » Jan 4th, '07, 23:08

It is much better. But instead of using your right hand to square, use your left finger(s). Its a small thing... but sometimes those little things make more difference than you realize.

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Jan 5th, '07, 09:24

that new video is much better, well done!

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Postby Speed » Jan 5th, '07, 10:51

i1011i wrote:It is much better. But instead of using your right hand to square, use your left finger(s). Its a small thing... but sometimes those little things make more difference than you realize.


Yes, i usually do that but now i didnt. But thanx for advice. I'm working on it.

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Postby totalmagic » Jan 6th, '07, 02:18

I really like the fan change. Great Work!! I wish you were able to tell me how to do it on here

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Postby Recluse » Jan 6th, '07, 03:18

Erdnase change is actually the trick I am having the most trouble on, Ive got lots of harder tricks down but I just cant make the erdnase look anything but rediculous.

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Postby king_of_keighley » Jan 7th, '07, 17:56

good stuff there!. I don't know how you did the fan change. do you know which book/dvd/vhs/tutorial it is in?

Thought they were all good though, to laymen they would all be awesome.

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