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Jordan C wrote:And there we have the line - teaching via new technological mediums is ethically ok so long as it does not breach the copyright of a magi or a magi company.

I was never talking about YT per se but using it as an example as where most of these things take place.

So it would now be fair to say that we can ethically allow the instruction of the commonplace tricks and effects that we were taught in our early days however ethically and morally it is completely wrong to allow the exposure of copyrighted material.

Case closed!!

And there was me thinking you had something new to say on this subject judging from the first post, but alas it was the same old thing thats been disscussed before with the same old answer... no wonder I couldn't get your point, you didn't have one or if that was it then it was lost in your first ramblings..

Jordan C wrote:Ethics come into because we carry an ethical code of honour not to reveal secrets..... therefore everytime we teach something we are breaking our ethics......

I give up.

Who is "we"? trust me the average , spotty american teeager can't even spell ethics let alone figure out what it means, they just get spoon fed the latest effect from the latest "trendy" magician and lap it up, they don't bother practicing the move/effect they just watch the video and off they go exposing themselves....

So I stand by my statement ETHICS don't come into it... if you want to complain about something complain about sites like ellusionist, they do far more harm than any "exposure" site ever could by advertising and marketing to that sort of customer.

Wukfit wrote:and off they go exposing themselves....

ewww not a nice thought

Wukfit wrote:... if you want to complain about something complain about sites like ellusionist, they do far more harm than any "exposure" site ever could by advertising and marketing to that sort of customer.

I've noticed no ill effects myself.

Let's not branch this into another pointless thread.

I find you offensive wukfit......

WE - as those who love magic and do it more than a hobby horse, we as magicians not bedroom card meisters etc etc etc

THREAD CLOSED PLEASE

Jordan C wrote:I find you offensive wukfit......

WE - as those who love magic and do it more than a hobby horse, we as magicians not bedroom card meisters etc etc etc

THREAD CLOSED PLEASE

And i find you much the same, glad we agree on something

Why do so many valid threads have to end with such egotystical, stereotypical rants by people and personal insults with absolutely no revevance?

Seige is, unfortunately, right when he says 'It's becoming more obvious that there's a stalemate situation being reached on the morals, ethics, honour and importance of internet exposure... ' and so I think this thread should be left now, with the few previous moronic posts removed, and everyone can make up their own minds on the subject.

I wouldn't call that personal insult.. he was being truthful as was I, I don't feel insulted more let down with his lack of ability to debate as the thread title suggested.

As for "moronic" posts would you care to clarify which those are and give your thoughts? I see no reason to close this thread.

Wukfit wrote:

Jordan C wrote:Ethics come into because we carry an ethical code of honour not to reveal secrets..... therefore everytime we teach something we are breaking our ethics......

I give up.

Who is "we"? trust me the average , spotty american teeager can't even spell ethics let alone figure out what it means, they just get spoon fed the latest effect from the latest "trendy" magician and lap it up, they don't bother practicing the move/effect they just watch the video and off they go exposing themselves....

So I stand by my statement ETHICS don't come into it... if you want to complain about something complain about sites like ellusionist, they do far more harm than any "exposure" site ever could by advertising and marketing to that sort of customer.

^^

come on play nicely boys, we don't want yet another playground dust up.

Executive decision:

When a debate turns silly, the thread gets locked.

Guess what?

Another perfectly reasonable debate ruined.