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On a tangent, we actually CHOSE a guy over two others BECAUSE he had a tattoo.

To fill the role of an illustrator, we put a job ad out, and the second candidate had a large but quite tasteful tattoo up his arm. He was the first to mention it, and dictated that the design was done by himself, and it was of a large airbrush.

Oddly, his character and aptitude PLUS his open attitude scored him points.

He's still working on & off for us freelance now. And he's even more tattoo'ed than ever.

I think that it's all about what job you're after. Our placement was for a creative, energetic and individual illustrator. The tattoo sort of highlighted these.

Perhaps a lawyer, bank clerk or other type of clerical job may just be the wrong place to have a tattoo on show.

All in all though, people should look at you as a person, an individual.

And not be prejudgemental, just because of the colours ON your skin.

While it's true that people SHOULD look at you for who you really are, unfortunately the reality is that they do not. Obviously the type of job you're applying for makes all the difference. In an office environment, prejudice and stereotyping runs rampant. It's a sad reality where there is still a large number of organizations where the hiring of women is influenced by assets other than their savvy and things like tattoos and hair length are perceived to detract from a man's competence.

As a professional accountant I know first-hand how this all works. I know I never would have had the jobs I have worked in if I still kept my hair long as it was until my early twenties. I have seen this phenomenon at play several times with reference to women: two candidates for a position are equally qualified - have similar educational backgrounds and similar employment experience. Who gets the job? The better looking one, of course! Similarly, two men apply for the same job, equally qualified - who get's the job - the one without the tattoos and nose peircing.

Please note that I don not CONDONE any of this behaviour - I'm just saying that unfortunately it exists among the vast majority of interviewers.

David The Cryptic wrote:

Farlsborough wrote:Don't do it. It reduces your IQ in people's estimation by huge amounts, as does wearing a baseball cap (well, duh), chewing gum and having your ear pierced if you're a guy.

I have quite a few friends with tattoos, and the number 1 fallacy when considering them is that "I could get mine to look tasteful". No. Tattoos are brash, end of story, and if you want a job as anything but a motorbike mechanic or a tattooist, don't get one where people can see it.

I quite fancy a tattoo actually, but there's no point in going half measures... I'd get the skull logo from "The Punisher" in solid black a foot high across my back

Do you like the Punisher?

Just wondering, since he is my favorite comic book.

And I dont have any tattoos persay, but I do have scar art.

I'm not really a massive comic fan, but I like the characters and do go to see most of the films. I like The Punisher because he's a regular guy who just happens to be hard as nails and really good at kicking people's asses, and I think every male has at some point day-dreamed about being a violent vigilante...
Also, his symbol is totally no nonsense... a big, mean skull. Way cool.

Iv been dicriminated against many times at work because of severe acne. One manager said i look like i havent washed for a week.

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I think it's a unfortunate part of human nature that we hold prejudices. But we all do it to some degree, wether racism, sexism, agism or just a certain dislike for certain groups of people.

I really try not to judge people but caught myself the other day doing it when I was walking down the road and saw a 15 year old girl with 2 kids. Straight away I thought, silly little slapper. Was that fair? They might not have even been her kids, she might have been babysiting, they could have been her brothers or sisters. Even if they were her kids, was I fair to judge? One of my best friend's feel pregnant at 15 and she's one of the lovelist people I've ever known.

ah...kids these days eh...

too busy trying to be adult and not enjoying the fun of being a kid...

..but yes, we all have involuntary thoughts of that nature i reckon...i suppose one should never paint someone else's world with your own palette...

Lady of Mystery wrote:One of my best friend's feel pregnant at 15 and she's one of the lovelist people I've ever known.

Seems you're not the only one who feels that way about her

seige wrote:

Lady of Mystery wrote:One of my best friend's feel pregnant at 15 and she's one of the lovelist people I've ever known.

Seems you're not the only one who feels that way about her

Obviously not, he was a horrible little oik too. Never did figure out what she saw in him.

ah...and there's the rub...

i lose count of how many little oiks and tics i see out with decent women...i especially hate their justification of it all "oooh but i love him.."...like that makes its ok...idiots are idiots, simple as, as far as I'm concerned...

many a time i've had arguments with women-mates cos of that kind of behaviour...but then again, its just a man/woman difference...

if blokes have problems, they want solutions from their mates...women have problems, they want empathising and comforting...

there you go...

seige wrote:On a tangent, we actually CHOSE a guy over two others BECAUSE he had a tattoo.

To fill the role of an illustrator, we put a job ad out, and the second candidate had a large but quite tasteful tattoo up his arm. He was the first to mention it, and dictated that the design was done by himself, and it was of a large airbrush.

Oddly, his character and aptitude PLUS his open attitude scored him points.

He's still working on & off for us freelance now. And he's even more tattoo'ed than ever.

I think that it's all about what job you're after. Our placement was for a creative, energetic and individual illustrator. The tattoo sort of highlighted these.

Perhaps a lawyer, bank clerk or other type of clerical job may just be the wrong place to have a tattoo on show.

All in all though, people should look at you as a person, an individual.

And not be prejudgemental, just because of the colours ON your skin.

kind of job? im gonna go to uni to study psychology, then after that, something in that field - maybe forensics?

Mike Jones, the jazz pianist, not the rapper, is incredably successful. He can outplay virtually anyone at jazz. He has a consistent gig at the Rio in Penn and Teller's shows.

He has a ****load of tattoos on his arms.

I guess if you're the best at what you do, tattoos don't matter.

My view on this is simple; I don't want to work for anyone who is prejudice against appearence of any sort, bacause I'm just not going to get on with them in the long run. So if I don't get a contract because I lave long hair and an ear ring, then so be it. It says a lot about how much importance the client puts on skills.

I work for myself as it happens, but I don't wear suits to client meetings, because those are not the sort of clients I want.

If anyone's thinking of getting a tattoo, hold off for about a year. New Scientist reports that new inks are coming on the market in the US initially this year that have the ability to be disrupted properly using laser removal. They might save a lot of regret and odd questions from subsequent partners.

At the end of the day it's a CUP's thing.

If the guy really want's a tattoo then he'll get one no matter what anyone says, whether we justify it or not.

I just saw a Luke Jermay performance video on youtube and it looked like his arms are covered with tattoos...