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tabled change

Postby Marvell » Jan 29th, '07, 01:38



I'm looking for a source of a change for a single card on the table.

This is for an effect I'm trying to match from Absolute Magic which has the spek take a card, sign it and replace it in the pack. He then takes another and puts it on the table. The signed card is shown to be in the pack ... blah blah blah ... the signed card is gone ... blah blah ... the signed card is the one on the table.

There's no such change in any of my books or DVDs.

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Postby moodini » Jan 29th, '07, 02:06

You could likely do it with the use of a dulplicate card and a doulbe lift....pm me if you wish and I will explain to what I am thinking!

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Postby Marvell » Jan 29th, '07, 02:22

The first bit I can do, it's the change from the pack to the table which though undetailed, is described as ambitious.

Can't see how a duplicate card helps with a signed card.

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Re: tabled change

Postby moodini » Jan 29th, '07, 03:54

Marvell wrote:......spek take a card, sign it and replace it in the pack. He then takes another and puts it on the table. The signed card is shown to be in the pack ... blah blah blah ... the signed card is gone ... blah blah ... the signed card is the one on the table.


Unless I don't understand exactly what you are asking.....I will PM you and explain what I mean.....obviously it depends on the exact handling you wish to use....but this sounds similar to a card transposition type of I use that involves a signed card changing places....and I use a duplicate card for it.......

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Postby Marvell » Jan 29th, '07, 08:56

Thanks for the PM, here is the clarified handling.

Spek takes card, signs and returns.
Spek takes second card and tables unseen.

There is some patter involving probability amoungst other things.

Signed card is shown to be in the pack.
Signed card is shown to be gone from the pack.
Signed card is shown to be the tabled card.

The last bit needs the switch.

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Postby Demitri » Jan 29th, '07, 11:06

From a pure sleight of hand approach, you could look into the McMillan Switch - which is a tabled card switch.

I don't know of many resources, but you can check out the DVD Unreal Work from Jason England and R Paul Wilson. It's an incredibly advanced dvd (as is the switch), but to see it in action is absolutely stunning.

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Postby Marvell » Jan 29th, '07, 11:43

Coo, I just saw a video of that. Coo.

Right, what's the route between "I can do a pretty nice classic pass" and there? Card College then Acker?

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Postby bronz » Jan 29th, '07, 18:03

Another way to do it, would be to use a gin pick followed by a throw change. If you're confused by either of those terms don't worry so was I until I saw Jon Armstrong lecture last week. The gin pick is essentially a strike double from a tabled deck, and is probably easier to learn. I think it's in Hugard and Braue somewhere but I'm not sure. Once you've picked it up there's a clever way to toss the two down as one and keep them together, pm me for more detail.

Resources for the throw change elude me but the idea is you show them one card then toss it to them, when they catch it it's changed. Put all the above together and you've got a lovely effect.

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Postby IanKendall » Jan 29th, '07, 18:56

There are several mucks that can be used here - the MacMillan would work but it's pretty well known by magicians (but not layfolk, so yay). I produced a CD called Mucking Hard Moves made Easy, which teaches moves that you could use. It's on my shop page, which is easy to find (but it's better I don't post it here).

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