close up table stuff - vote please

Struggling with an effect? Any tips (without giving too much away!) you'd like to share?

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Feb 5th, '07, 10:24



3 tricks I would choose would have to be

Triumph
Mark Wilson's clever combination (ok that's technically two tricks)
Invisible Palm

They are three tricks with easily get some of the best reactions when I perform them.

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Postby seige » Feb 5th, '07, 10:26

Colour Monte
TT - multiple effects
Vernon's Twisting the Aces

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Postby Mark Wynn » Feb 5th, '07, 12:08

You are so right Lindz. Clearly I'm not ready to know yet. Having been a full time pro since 1970, can you tell me when I will be ready please? :) Whilst you are at it, can you tell us what 'Deck 51' is please? Clearly a card effect but what? I do know it's a dealer item. :? Mark

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Postby IAIN » Feb 5th, '07, 12:14

some pendulum work
14,400 (an esp effect)
design duplication

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Postby lindz » Feb 5th, '07, 12:40

Apologies if i got you wrong Mark wyatt but to me triumph is a standard classic of card magic which is why i thought you were not a professional magician. I presumed {wrongly} you were a beginner or something. Maybe your not into card magic i dont know i can only use my own opinions on what i read to give out answers or opinions on what i believe.

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Postby Magic1Jim » Feb 5th, '07, 12:50

I would have to say

1) Fiber Optics

2) Invisible Palm (AOA-PH)

3) The Silent Treatment

You have a bit of everything there.

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Feb 5th, '07, 13:34

To be fair, I've heard triumph refered to by a numver of different names so Mark might well know it by a different name.

Basically the spec chooses a card which is the put back into the deck. The deck is shuffled and mixed so that some cards are face up and some face down. The magician spreads the deck to find that all cards have turned face up except for one, the specs card.

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Postby jericbilo » Feb 5th, '07, 14:05

Hmm. I'm quite new to this and I've never done table hopping but here's what I'd most likely do.

1) Copper, Silver, Brass Transposition

2) Koslowski Bill Switch

3) Cannibal Cards

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Postby Scott Daly » Feb 5th, '07, 14:15

I would most likely go for -

1 fiber optics (Richard Sanders)

2 Turtle coins (Cody Fisher)

3 Solid deception (Paul Harris)

* I would usually use solid deception after a deck switch and the specs had previously handled the cards, but I could only have three so had to leave a few out.

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Postby Mark Wynn » Feb 5th, '07, 15:18

Hello Lindz,
No apologies called for Lindz and I hope you will accept MY apologies for what was a somewhat sarcastic reply. It is worth discussing further although what I write might be more suitable for another forum.

You are right in that I’m not a card man. Never have been. At my local magic club I greatly admire all the youngsters huddled in corners showing the latest moves etc. It all leaves me agog with amazement. Perhaps it takes some time for such talented folk to realise that the entertainment angle must come into this. This has been mentioned several times in this thread. An entertaining magician with a Svengali Deck (You know of course) will keep lay people enthralled for ages with a good routine, whilst an amazing display of ‘finger flinging’ with cards, without entertainment, will just bore lay people.

My magic started way back in 1947 – yes 60 years ago. I tried many aspects of the art. My card skills (???) are mainly from The Royal Road to Card Magic and I still have a copy. Using basic sleights and effects from the book I have entertained folks for years. That doesn’t mean to say I don’t use any up to date material and I use several well-known packet tricks when working at functions. However my actual card skills are limited. Just to show what I mean – when opening any magic magazine and it includes a ‘new’ card effect, I just turn the page.

To repeat, I do admire all you talented folk using a pack of cards, but when the names of the latest card move or published trick and bandied about I am just lost. Psssst. I can palm a card and do so regularly when I’m working. Just knock a drink over and the misdirection will cover the very worst move. (Joke).
Psssst. Again. Any ideas relating to the Deck 51 trick?
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Postby lindz » Feb 5th, '07, 16:38

I actually liked your reply it was a great comback and left me stumped of how to reply, it got me thinking. This has opened up a new light for me actually to reliase all magicians arnt the same. My thinking that most magicians would know every classic possible but i have been doing some thinking and have reliased i dont know anything about rope magic, well i can do a few routines but i couldnt name all the classics but thats because i usually do cards and mentalism. So due to our earlier conversation it looks like im going to go all out and purchase some books on rope magic even thoe i have no interest in it just so i can explore the different catorgaries we have available. Its amazing how a confusion can make the mind turn into imagination.

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Postby bronz » Feb 5th, '07, 17:57

Tricky one this, hmm....

Probably (in no particular preference order sorry)

The World Famous 11p Trick (from James Brown's Fancy A Pot Of Jam DVD).

Crazy Man's handcuffs.

My own one coin routine.

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Postby Mark Wynn » Feb 5th, '07, 21:51

Oh dear . . Can no one can recognise the Deck 51. Well I'm not really winding you up as it is a dealer item and here is the description straight from the pages. Any card is mentally selected. A pack is taken from a case and is slowly counted. There are only 51. No one, except the volunteer assistant has any knowledge of the card. Yet the one missing card proves to be the selected card and it produced from the magician’s pocket. There are a few more advertising snippets to impress the reader.
Does anyone recognise it? Mark

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Postby Michaeljohn » Feb 6th, '07, 12:45

Hi guys....... thanks for the many replies to this thread.

Quite interesting to say the least.

I have today received 'Heirloom' which was one of the early 'recommends' and having gone through the routine think this will be an absolute gem. I already have a wallet suitable which I use for another mental effect so I shall be looking forward to presenting this one when the time is right.

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Postby MagicIain » Feb 7th, '07, 15:25

Heirloom is an awesome story. You will find that the reactions to Heirloom, when performed as is instructed, are a lot different to reactions from other effects. I know that if you dress an effect correctly, anything can look like real magic - but Heirloom feels like real magic.

It's very weird indeed for the spectator.

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