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abraxus wrote:climb in through their bedroom window that night and leave an after-eight on their pillow while they sleep...

Not with my dodgy back, I'd send it by post instead!

"How much does your dad earn" I kinda ask that in my own unique way then you can work out if shes from money....

I explain that I have CUPS, then she says "well so do I".....

the reply should be " and very nice they are too but i meen my moneys tied up with magic and entertaining, so unless you like being entertained tied up, you'll have to pay your share."

magicdiscoman wrote:

I explain that I have CUPS, then she says "well so do I".....

the reply should be " and very nice they are too but i meen my moneys tied up with magic and entertaining, so unless you like being entertained tied up, you'll have to pay your share."

and if they like being tied up........

skip lunch and goe staight for the apitiser

fair enough...I just fancy a bit of desert

the polite answer would be "iv'e lots of rope to spare but I'm short of cash perhapse we can work out an arrangment."

When I used to date back in the early years ( way way back in the 21st century!! ) I used to take an alternative approach

I would take a girl out, when the bill came I would pass it to her... and walk casually out the restaurant.. and just wait outside...

she would come out smiling, give me a playful dig in the arm and usually kiss me.. !!

An ingenious method on my part..

while she went to the bathroom as a lady inarguably will do during every bloody meal you go out to.. I would slip the price of price of the meal and a few extra quid into her purse in a ncie little envelope marked ''keep the change babe *wink* '' .. I am surprised I never got slapped once for that!!

hehe...what can i say? what a guy lol

you wanna pay for my meals out in the future?

I.D. - that is inspired, well done sir!

The last time I went out for dinner with a young lady, we started the evening as just friends and ended it as something more... I paid, so make of that what you will.

[BTW that was only a month ago, we're still seeing each other - yay for me! ]

But that was a first date really (how many "friends" do you go out for meals for two with...?!), as students I expect we will split it in the future, she did really try to offer. Although the next time we go out for dinner I expect it'll be Valentine's Day, in which case I may end up paying again

You're not a cheap-ass Blapsing, especially at 17 when - pardon my assumptions - you probably don't have much more than a saturday job's worth of cash in the kitty week by week (especially if you're a magician with CUPS!). I on the otherhand am a student - I just ring it in with the other £1000's of debt and hope that I become a surgeon! Dining a lady is expensive; the mains plus wine, dessert if the meal has lacked elsewhere, coffee... it all adds up. I'm sure it doesn't bother the modern girl.

I will however offer these two pieces of sage wisdom (!):
a) Put a bit of effort into finding a restaurant that is romantic and nice, but reasonably priced. I didn't check the place out that we went to very much but was pleasantly surprised; the whole meal came to just over £40. If you go to places that do moroccan/mediterranean food, it will be tasty and interesting (hopefully), cosily decorated and lit (probably) and may well be very reasonably priced as well, allowing you to more frequently make that old fashioned gesture. Restaurants on high streets with stylish neon decor, an abstract name and a disproportionate number of dishes involving the word "jus" can often be intimidating, disappointing and then finally swing round to kick you in the wallet at the end. Go slightly off the beaten track and seek out smaller, family run restaurants who take pride in returning customers, not getting a mention in fashion mags.

b) This is even better - learn to cook! If you're blessed with abilities in the kitchen or can even just be bothered to buy a book or two (stick to achievable stuff first...!), you will be inviting your girl for fantastic food which costs as much as the accompanying bottle of wine. No designated driver or ridiculous taxi fares, no issues about the bill, and it's a natural progression to take your remaining half glasses of wine and snuggle up on the sofa. Perfect. Downside? You have to tidy up before she comes round...

It also depends on the country.
In Switzerland for example, where I studied , it was quite common for a pair to split the costs.
In Greece it's just unthinkable for a lady to pay anything,
I personally never let any lady pay for anything (and I was lucky to find the love of my life quite early (9 years ago when I was 20), my loving wife, so that "any lady" was she most of the time ).

do a simple meal

Starter - Prawn cocktail

Main Course - grilled salmon with new potatoes, steamed vegetables and asparagus, a small mountain of fluffy rice, and some palatable sauce..

dessert - sex!! lol no seriously... a chocolate gateau from tesco.. who cares.?? its chocolate!!!

ID could be onto something there! Any guy who manages to cook a good meal for a girl will get plenty of brownie points. Really shows he's made the effort.

Probabaly not for a first date though, could be seen to be a little bit too forward.

It's not about whether you pay or not. It's all about the pleasure you get from taking care of a woman and treating her right.
And if you don't get pleasure from that, remember that the more you pamper her and pander to her, the more you will get in return for your troubles.

For a first date, Id say go to the cinema and let her choose a film.. sit through it and pay attention to i t so as to be able to talk about it after. Go for a few drinks somewhere quiet. As much as she might be a party animal herself, the opportunity to actually get to know her will go down well.

Aferwards, walk her to her taxi and give her the money to get home ( at least offer ). If you drive, you can drive her home. Either way, dont push a further issue. Tell her you had a good time, kiss her on the cheek and make your way. Be a man a text/call her the following morning, let her know you had a good night and would like to see her again.

In the second date, you can be a little more forward but if she knows you are not with her or just one reason she will respect you more. If you are with her for one reason then you dont deserve her respect.

Yada Yada Yada be a gentleman.. etc