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Right, now I've caught your eye with some capital letters how's about this...

It's come to my attention recently that many of us don't know as much as you'd think about what many would consider magic classics/common knowledge.

For example, a full time pro here mentioned the other day that they were ignorant of Triumph, someone else of equal standing didn't know what Sinful was, a certain member who you'd think was well read doesn't even know how to do Twisting the Aces.

This isn't in any way to denigrate those people, in fact the purpose of this thread is to celebrate the fact that we can be perfectly competent magicians without knowing the workings of every single little nuance of the craft. So come on, own up, what don't you know?

I'll start us off....

Until a week ago I didn't know what Professor's Nightmare was.

I've never performed any kind of effect with a TT.

Despite developing a massive interest in coins, I haven't seen or read any David Roth.

Now over to you....

I agree :

I have no idea what twisting the aces is. I never use a thread hook up, and i dont know shape shifter amongst other stuff.

haha this should be fun.

i know nearly nothing about magic and its roots etc. I'm always asking markdini questions online about things.

up until....january probably...mayeb abit before i had never bought a guide into magic (i only did card magic) and just tried to create ways of doing things.

I'm a sucker for figuring effects out and not buying them

never used a TT

never used magnets of any sort (and don't intend to) excluding the PK

and thats it for now.

I'm getting the crazy man's handcuffs because I don't know how to do it. I felt embarrassed that my wife's best friend, not a magician, can do it but I can't. Well, I'm no magician either.

I didn't know anything about Ali Bongo before I met him. Same goes for Wayne Dobson. In fact, I still don't know much about WD but his name seems to be dropped by many people in the club.

I only recently started playing around with IT.

Here's the kicker. Since I was living in Japan for about 5 years before coming to England(I'm Canadian). I didn't know who Derren Brown was. Honest. I was standing next to him in the International Magic Convention and my friend says, "Wow, that's Derren Brown". I said," Who?"

I keep getting tempted to buy crazy mans handcuffs but i never do.
I only know a couple of rope tricks when i would like to learn more
I dont practise enough with sponge balls

There is no way in the world that any magician will know how to do every trick, you just learn the tricks that apeal to you. when I first started learning magic (like most people) I wanted to know how to do everything. The only problem with this is It just not cost effective!!! In the end I performed the tricks I had learned, and kept the tricks which got the best reactions in my routine.

Every now and again I will see a trick or a book that I like the look of and buy it. but now I would never buy a trick just to find out how it was done. I know how to do loads of tricks, but I only perform about 16 of them.

So to answer your question there are loads of tricks that I don't know how to do, but thats a good thing as I can still be amazed by magic!

There are lots of things I don't know how to do.
I have never used sponge or rope magic as it's not really fascinated me a great deal and I tend to use effects that appeal to me the most or would fit in with my style of presentation.
It's impossible to know and learn everything. There are lots of areas of magic and effects that I have read about and studied in books but not performed.
There is also loads of things I want to learn.
Magic is an ongoing process of learning new things all the time.

I have never owned or used a Raven (though I have the Bat)

bronz wrote:Right, now I've caught your eye with some capital letters how's about this...

It's come to my attention recently that many of us don't know as much as you'd think about what many would consider magic classics/common knowledge.

For example, a full time pro here mentioned the other day that they were ignorant of Triumph, someone else of equal standing didn't know what Sinful was, a certain member who you'd think was well read doesn't even know how to do Twisting the Aces.

This isn't in any way to denigrate those people, in fact the purpose of this thread is to celebrate the fact that we can be perfectly competent magicians without knowing the workings of every single little nuance of the craft. So come on, own up, what don't you know?

I'll start us off....

Until a week ago I didn't know what Professor's Nightmare was.

I've never performed any kind of effect with a TT.

Despite developing a massive interest in coins, I haven't seen or read any David Roth.

Now over to you....

Well i can say i know just about everything you listed : TT, nightmare, twist aces, sinful, triumph.
I will admit i dont know much about coins, but thats because i choose to. I am not a coin worker. The only coin effects i do are sinful, the roll,and some jokes. Not much else.
I am more a card person, ad closeup person. And i love the TT.
So i also dont know much on stage, because i dont perform it. But i do own a video on dove magic and some others. But i dont study it like i do cards.

The most embarrassing thing about my magic repetoire is the fact that coin work is totally out of my capability.

It's probably just a practice thing, but I've never been able to make any coin effects work. I have lots of magic books, including Bobo, and consider myself competent in many areas of magic, but when someone says, "go on then, show us a trick" I find myself thinking, 'bu**er, I wish I could do something with coins' whilst asking "Have you got a deck of cards anywhere?"

I have quite a few different types of IT but I cant do ANY effects with it as I just cannot set it up for the life of me and would dearly love too!!

I know many many effects with the TT but perform less than a handful.. just through not putting much time into it.

I have actually put down my cards and will leave them alone for a month. I am working on sponge ball routines.. TT routines and also all the little effects I have in my draw that I dont use. Well, i still use my cards but only the old ones.. Im working on some Jeff Mcbride manipulation techniques

a bit late in on this thread i know.
but remember one of the greatest magicians/ inventors Horace Goldin, when his ship sank with all his props and tiger, built himself up a new show, with just one trick... The Egg Bag.. so i agree you cant know it all. But prefect the ones you do know.. if you got just 3 tricks that you know inside out.. thats all you need to amaze people..

I've been suckered into buying a one trick DVD off of E (Haven't we all?).

I buy Jay Sankey DVDs just to laugh, sometimes, but then at a later date, actually go back and learn the stuff on it.

I've never used my M5 in a performance.

That about sums it up.

For now, at least

dont get me wrong, i love my card magic, but i've deliberately stayed away from some of the classics...purely cos i'd always thought that just about every magician performs them....

inverted logic really, cos they perform them for very good reasons...red hot momma is another example that springs to mind...

and then when you look at people like Marlo,how often do you see someone perform The Leaper, yet to me that has for worth and wonderment for me than say red hot momma...

i also like the idea of not having to learn it all, cos firstly, you just cant...but secondly, it keeps a certain level of magic wonderment so when you see it performed, you've got no idea as to the workings...keeps your mind fresh in my opinion...

Since I often only read a magician's nae and do not hear it spoken, I often get nervous talking about other magicians with the pros I hang out with. There was a very embarassing time that I pronounced David Acer's name as "ACE-ur" instead of "Ak-ur". Also, until this year, even with years of semi-expert card and close up magic experience, I didn't know what the Pass was . Try to top THAT!

Michael Kras

i cannot do the glide, my fingers just wont do it. yet i can do alot of seemingly harder sleights i have tryied and tryied the instuctions either make no sense or my ring finger does not work.

either that or im thick