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Hi everyone!
long time since I last posted... still here nevertheless!

I bought De'Ring DVD some weeks ago and I think it's amazing, I'm just wondering, would you guys rate the PK ring as suitable for doing the trick?

I've been feeling like buying it for a while, abd this might just give me the final kick!

Thanks!
Edoardo

depemds on wehter the set sized rings are suitable for your devo.

It can be done, but it's harder as there's no stone and so no grip. Also it's not as impressive because of the lack of stone.
And that one where the ring rolls from fingertip to fingertip (forget the name, maybe ladder something) is easyish to do with the squarish US band ring, but very hard with the new G2 ring as the sides are thinner and the band is wider.

As beeno said. Most of the De'Ring techniques feature college or military style rings, which have visual stones and additional side grips on them. The PK rings I've seen so far had neither.

Maybe someone will bring a De'PK ring on the market. It sounds like a nice idea, and I guess there would not be any technical problem at all to manufacture such a ring. On the other hand, you may get a presentation problem. PK rings are meant to keep a low profile, while De'Rings are supposed to yell at the spectator, "look at me, here I am". You don't really want to do any PK stuff with a ring that draws a lot of attention...

That finger rolling motion would have to be the Gryphon Roll.

I don't agree with the whole 'it's better with a stone ring' or 'it's less impressive with a band' arguement. Most people who say this are simply echoeing others with little evidence to back up their opinion. I first learned this technique umpteen years ago as part of Gary Oulette's Homing Ring routine, and I always used a band ring. To the spectators it's a ring going onto a finger - the stone is gilding the lily. There is no doubt that a large stone does make the ring more visible, but not having a stone is hardly the heinous crime it is made out to be.

Bottom line is to do the move with a ring that you would be comfortable wearing day to day. If a huge class type ring jars with your personality then it will stick out if you were to use it as part of a routine. Ironically, the Insanity ladder and the Gryphon roll cannot be done with the stone rings, so if you want to do all the moves you will need multiple rings, or even worse, to switch rings mid way...

The PK rings that I have seen would work with some effort.

Take care, Ian

anyone used it for stopping time on watches? whats the reactions like?

I don't agree with the whole 'it's better with a stone ring' or 'it's less impressive with a band' arguement. Most people who say this are simply echoeing others with little evidence to back up their opinion. [...] There is no doubt that a large stone does make the ring more visible, but not having a stone is hardly the heinous crime it is made out to be.

"Heinous crime?" "It's better with a stone ring?" I tried to look for these quotes in the other posts, but couldn't find them anywhere.

From a technical view, you're right. Of course it works with band rings. And so far, no one in here said it was worse.

Edoardo asked for a De'Ring routine, and we replied on the basis of that question. Most of the De'Ring routines explicitly use a big stone and strong side grips, and the stone ending the right way up is actually one part of the De'Ring routine, whether you like it or not. (Not telling you anything new there, you obviously know the DVD.) That's De'Ring routine. No one is attacking your routine. It's just not an issue which routine is supposed to be "better", this thread is simply about a De'Ring question.

Bottom line is to do the move with a ring that you would be comfortable wearing day to day. If a huge class type ring jars with your personality then it will stick out if you were to use it as part of a routine.

Good point.

Ironically, the Insanity ladder and the Gryphon roll cannot be done with the stone rings, so if you want to do all the moves you will need multiple rings, or even worse, to switch rings mid way...

True, but people still have two less awkward options: Either go without some of the moves, or be creative and make the ring switch a part of the performance. A round ring suddenly grows into a band ring, the band ring transforms into a stone ring. Just a thought for those who want to go ahead with the routine.

Speaking for myself, I got the De'Ring download and really liked what I saw, but it's unlikely to become a routine for me. I went out to get some rings for it, only to find that my ring finger just isn't very ring-friendly... big knuckles, thin bones. That basically spoils most of the De'Ring moves for me (unless I find an alternative with different fingers), and leaves me the Gryphon and a bumpy Insanity Ladder. Too bad, but there are many other nice ring routines out there.

big knuckles and thin bones... souuds like you're describing my finger!!!
The best solution I found is to wear a rather thick silver band ring, which ranges from my first up to my second knuckle, therefore avoiding ring movements and so on. Plus it's a band style ring, so you don't have to worry about a stone moving around.

I found it to be the best compromise between appearence and being confortable. I wouldn't feel ok with a huge stone on my finger, it would make me look ridiculous and uncomfortable. This one doesn't go unnoticed but it's still fine to walk around with.