not long till St Georges day what are you all do for it

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Postby LeftEye » Apr 2nd, '07, 21:19



I probably wont be doing anything as political correctness goes off the stupid scale, double backflips onto the pathetic scale then wooshes off into space. I heard it's illegal to fly St Georges flag in a pub on St Georges day as it might offend non-English people.

I do only hope I can be proven wrong on this but it brings back memories of the world cup when they said it was illegal to fly English flags!!

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Postby Markdini » Apr 2nd, '07, 21:23

LeftEye wrote:I probably wont be doing anything as political correctness goes off the stupid scale, double backflips onto the pathetic scale then wooshes off into space. I heard it's illegal to fly St Georges flag in a pub on St Georges day as it might offend non-English people.

I do only hope I can be proven wrong on this but it brings back memories of the world cup when they said it was illegal to fly English flags!!


I say fly the flag, if every tax payer and honest English man amongst us stood up and was counted instead of hiding away . any way look at the red cross they fly our flag every where .

I am master of misdirection, look over there.

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Postby Matt Charming » Apr 2nd, '07, 22:38

LeftEye wrote:I probably wont be doing anything as political correctness goes off the stupid scale, double backflips onto the pathetic scale then wooshes off into space. I heard it's illegal to fly St Georges flag in a pub on St Georges day as it might offend non-English people.

I do only hope I can be proven wrong on this but it brings back memories of the world cup when they said it was illegal to fly English flags!!


I think theres nothing wrong in being proud of your Country every Nation should have a right to fly there flag and be proud with out filling we are doing somethink wrong I do fill some time should I fly the english flag or will it come across to others a wrong way I do not ike to think it would I only fly the English flag becuase I am proud of being English and Not becuase I want to get at someone who is not English I get on with evry one me Happy days

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Apr 3rd, '07, 09:31

I thought that St Paddy was actually a Briton from the Dorset area before the Saxons got there.

Matt, you should talk to Dave! He's always muttering on about why pubs make a fuss of 'St. Guinness Day' and don't bother about St Georges Day. He's right though, be proud of being English, why shouldn't we. The Scots fly their flag, the Welsh do with theirs so why shouldn't we.

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Postby Wills » Apr 3rd, '07, 11:10

Aye St Pat didn't actually rid Ireland of snakes, its more of a metaphor. It is believed that he drove all Pagans out of Ireland and helped Christianity. To be honest I'm not bothered about it but I got a day of work so its all good. :D

But not being able to fly your flag in England is a joke, things seem to be getting so stupid these days. Like that girl getting in trouble in work for not taking of her cross as it would cause offense. I mean come on what ever happened to live and let live.

Can anybody please help me? I'm having terrible problems controlling my streetmagic- I can't walk down a street without turning into a pub.
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Postby seige » Apr 3rd, '07, 11:19

St George wasn't even British, and he's also the patron saint of many other countries.

I find these days the only people celebrating St.G's day are the 'red cross on white' bearing football yobs to be honest. Just another excuse for them to get inebriated, pick a few fights, and smash a few telephone boxes. Well, that's exactly what I expect will happen (again) around these parts.

The St George cross has become a national symbol, for sure, but I think most kids recognise it as the England football team flag.

I much prefer St Patrick's day, because Guinness is usually on promo ;)

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Postby AndyRegs » Apr 3rd, '07, 12:44

I dounbt many of these yobs also realise that St. George was actually palastinian. Which in the current world climate is quite ironic.
I personally have no time for patriotism. I cant remember who I am paraphrasing here, but patriotism is the belief that the country you are born in is the best due to the simple fact that you are born in it! And I always find it amusing that most of the individuals who go on about how we are superior to others tend to be the lowest common common denominator.

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Postby Lady of Mystery » Apr 3rd, '07, 12:57

I don't really agree, AndyRegs. Patriotism is about being proud of who you are and the roots you've got.

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Postby greedoniz » Apr 3rd, '07, 13:26

Two quotes from 18th century writer Samuel Johnson. Not sure if these are the quotes you were paraphrasing.


"Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel."


"A patriot is he whose publick conduct is regulated by one single motive, the love of his country; who, as an agent in parliament, has, for himself, neither hope nor fear, neither kindness, nor resentment, but refers every thing to the common interest."

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Postby Mandrake » Apr 3rd, '07, 14:50

I suggest all the English bods link arms and sing a few choruses of 'Land of Hope and Glory'. We don't get many chances to do that!

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Postby Matt Charming » Apr 3rd, '07, 15:38

Mandrake wrote:I suggest all the English bods link arms and sing a few choruses of 'Land of Hope and Glory'. We don't get many chances to do that!


Sounds good to me Happy days are here again

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Postby magicforfun » Apr 3rd, '07, 16:40

St Georges day is celebrated in Catalonia. Here we call him St Jordi. The way to celebrate this is that the men give a rose to their beloved, and the women give a book to theirs. Have you heard of that tradition? They've even taken upon it in Japan,.

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Postby trickyricky » Apr 3rd, '07, 16:56

Why is it illegal to fly a flag in a pub? If people from other countries are offended by the flag of the country that they chose to come to, then they shouldn't have come here! Theres the American flag all over the place in America and not everybody there is American, and when i see it im not offended by it!

I could rant on and on about this until St George rises from the grave, but im not going to. Ok, maybe i will. But not yet....

Oh, and to answer the question, on St. Georges Day, i'll be at my parents pub having a jolly good time with whoever comes in, doing some magic, and there'll be a few St. Georges crosses about the place.

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Postby S. Lea » Apr 3rd, '07, 19:07

St. George wasn't English, he was a Roman soldier who protested against the torturing of Christians for their religious beliefs. Ironic, that St. George is frowned upon 'in the name of tolerance'. Stupid, that the mayor of London can find £100,000 for St. Patricks day, because of the "the enormous contribution which Irish people have made, and continue to make, to the economic, social and cultural life of this city" but does everything he can to prevent similar festivities on St. Georges day.

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Postby Farlsborough » Apr 3rd, '07, 19:28

I don't have a massive amount of time for patriotism to be honest - from any country. I do think that it's hypocritical for politicians to encourage other cultural days of celebration and discourage St. Georges day, but really all of us have at least some "immigrant" blood in us, whether it be nordic, french, Roman... we've been invaded more times than Britney Spear's personal space :P So in some ways you have to expect Britain to recognise a hotch potch of celebrations.

Also, whilst people resent other cultures for the freedom they seem to enjoy whilst we "true brits" are given the sour eye, it isn't their fault that when you think of St. Paddy's day you think of jokes, guinness and leprechauns, and when you think of Burns' Night you think of haggis, whiskey and poetry, but when you think of St. Georges and the flag you think of skinheads, racism and the BNP :oops: Instead of trying to bang on about "true brits" which just invites a swaith of prejudice, we should celebrate what britain is now, or at least what it is working towards being now, a multi-cultural and diverse nation. I'd like to see faces of all colours downing pints of bitter and staggering to the chippy :D

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