Effects with scope to practice cold reading?

Struggling with an effect? Any tips (without giving too much away!) you'd like to share?

Moderators: nickj, Lady of Mystery, Mandrake, bananafish, support

Postby themagicwand » Jan 12th, '07, 00:06



Hey In kaleidoscopes - I like your little routine. A bit of "tweaking" (as we say here in the UK) so it fits in more with my character and I think I may very well throw that into the next wedding I work. Cheers mate! :D

User avatar
themagicwand
Elite Member
 
Posts: 4555
Joined: Feb 24th, '06, 11:08
Location: Through the looking glass. (CP)

Postby Zarrow » Jan 24th, '07, 04:08

Interesting posts!

In kaleidoscopes, very much like you take on this idear. Similare, in effect to a DB routine.

To get back to the original post, I think pure effect has an effect that could be 'dressed up' with some real cold read, think the effect is remenicence.

Ta

User avatar
Zarrow
Junior Member
 
Posts: 19
Joined: Jan 5th, '07, 22:24

Postby DaveWise » Apr 17th, '07, 19:57

that effect sounds really good! I don't know if i'd be confident enough to pull off a face up classic force... with the wrong colored back... and have them pocket the card without seeing the back-- and without revealing the face to their partner!! seems like too many variables to control for me---

---sounds like a fun challenge!!

DaveWise
Full Member
 
Posts: 69
Joined: Nov 14th, '06, 00:32
Location: Boston, Massachusetts

Postby In kaleidoscopes » Apr 17th, '07, 23:39

good point Dave,

probably a much more effective way of performing that piece of the routine would be that they sandwhich their card face up in their hands.

Thanks for pointing that out!

User avatar
In kaleidoscopes
Full Member
 
Posts: 55
Joined: Jan 11th, '07, 16:10
Location: Denton, TX

Postby DaveWise » Apr 18th, '07, 03:18

anytime, kirk :D
it sounds like a really good routine though-- i was thinking about it earlier today. I think taking advantage of that "special" connection that two people in a relationship WANT to believe they have (whether they do or not) can make really STRONG magic.

DaveWise
Full Member
 
Posts: 69
Joined: Nov 14th, '06, 00:32
Location: Boston, Massachusetts

Postby S. Lea » Apr 18th, '07, 14:30

I'm currently working on a book about performing readings with a Go, or Weiqi board. The cold-reading is in reverse, that is, the spectator's do the cold-reading on themselves. There is no gimmick, I've been doing private readings for a while now, with total success. Unlike tarot or palmistry, reading the stones requires no spiritual belief in the subject and so avoids most ethical concerns some people have with other types of reading.

User avatar
S. Lea
Preferred Member
 
Posts: 149
Joined: Oct 17th, '06, 14:19
Location: (28-30:CW)

Postby IAIN » Apr 18th, '07, 14:35

somthing i've used:

4 postcards (or more if you want), each of different styles of art
the spec picks one
you give a character reading based on that piece of art
when you turn it over, it has a message on a post-it note saying "i knew you'd pick me"...

all you need is a post-it note finger palmed...

and if they happen to pick the postcard you would of chosen, then basically kinda cold-read yourself...kinda lightweight but it does let you practise...

for example, if they picked a Pollock painting (i love illiteration), then you could say that though to most people they seem to be disorganised and chaotic, underneath it all that person is quite organised and has varied interests..

but could do with maybe giving themselves more time to explore their interests and be slightly more selfish with their time...

IAIN
 

Postby Shufton » Apr 18th, '07, 20:00

You may want to look at some of the work of Kenton Knepper. Without commenting on his effects (different topic!) he has found ways to incorporate cold reading techniques into many of his effects.

In any "take a card" trick, for example, you could briefly "read" what that particular selection says about the person who selected it. This technique, if done well, can heighten interest and attention, depending on your victim. It can also go over like a lead balloon on the wrong spec. Card tricks under the guise of mind reading tricks may provide you with many opportunities.

User avatar
Shufton
Preferred Member
 
Posts: 192
Joined: Apr 5th, '07, 18:27
Location: San Francisco area

Postby TheLondonI » Apr 19th, '07, 22:01

I've heard very good things about Ian Rowlands book, the full facts of cold reading. I haven't read it though.

TheLondonI
Preferred Member
 
Posts: 259
Joined: Mar 20th, '07, 17:42
Location: London, UK, (16:AH)

Postby Shufton » Apr 19th, '07, 22:13

Ian Rowland's book is perhaps the very best text book regarding the mechanics and techniques of cold reading. I emphasize that it is a text book. It will not necessarily provide you with much practical performing advice - that isn't what the book is about. I would highly recommend this book - it is the most complete treatise of its kind I have ever seen!

User avatar
Shufton
Preferred Member
 
Posts: 192
Joined: Apr 5th, '07, 18:27
Location: San Francisco area

Postby Tomo » Apr 20th, '07, 00:19

Shufton wrote:Ian Rowland's book is perhaps the very best text book regarding the mechanics and techniques of cold reading. I emphasize that it is a text book. It will not necessarily provide you with much practical performing advice - that isn't what the book is about. I would highly recommend this book - it is the most complete treatise of its kind I have ever seen!

Indeed. I think it's fair to say that Full Facts is a wide-ranging and very potent arsenal of techniques for use once you're a competent cold reader in your own right.

Image
User avatar
Tomo
Veteran Member
 
Posts: 9866
Joined: May 4th, '05, 23:46
Location: Darkest Cheshire (forty-bloody-six going on six)

Postby In kaleidoscopes » Apr 20th, '07, 21:20

if I had more than 2 thumbs Id give em all up to rowlands full facts :)

User avatar
In kaleidoscopes
Full Member
 
Posts: 55
Joined: Jan 11th, '07, 16:10
Location: Denton, TX

cold reading

Postby spudgun » Apr 23rd, '07, 20:26

im not crash hot on all things mentalist but it would seem to me that any kind of card trick where you force a card could be changed into a bit of a cold reading experiment with comparitive ease....ive done loads of tricks where ive forced a card and read it in someones eyes or pulse etc....also in dave forrests dvd the trickery there is a trick called grass box which has loads of mentalist cold reading possibilities (and its ludicrously simple but hes a sly one)

User avatar
spudgun
Senior Member
 
Posts: 369
Joined: Apr 15th, '07, 23:35
Location: Glasgow 29 SH

Previous

Return to Support & Tips

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 2 guests