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does anybody know where i could find this?im pretty sure its an e book but im not certain.it used to be available on lybrary.com but not anymore.any help would be appreciated thanks

Have you tried googling it?

Google throws up the same question on Penguin but also Mog's reference to the book at http://www.talkmagic.co.uk/ftopic1840-0.php

Ok... Physical Touches of the PK kind... sounds a lot like Pk Touches... you think?

Let me guess... you're new to Mentalism and Magic you just saw this neat trick and now you want to do it too, just like everyone else

There's at least a dozen variations to this ancient parlor trick that, up till about five years ago, went mostly ignored and was more or less forgotten of. But if you want the bit that started it all, you now have the right term to use in a google search.

please do not patronise me i am not new to magic or mentalism.i have been searching all over for a second phase to pk touches.in my current act i am using a version by patrik kuffs but it doesnt flow as well as i would like.thanks for all the help guys anyway google hasnt produced much.ill try join another forum and find what im looking for there but in the mean time if anybody knows of another second phase that would be great.thanks

erfacemcer wrote:please do not patronise me i am not new to magic or mentalism.i have been searching all over for a second phase to pk touches.in my current act i am using a version by patrik kuffs but it doesnt flow as well as i would like.thanks for all the help guys anyway google hasnt produced much.ill try join another forum and find what im looking for there but in the mean time if anybody knows of another second phase that would be great.thanks

It might help is you had a bit more patience... if you proved to everyone that you actually were a magician before probing into something of this sort with such a specific topic and yet, incomplete question.

As I said, there are many spin-offs and there are several variants that are (were) extended as a very limited mode of release.

Now, rather than getting your shorts in a bunch when people talk down to you, as I did in my previous post. You may stop and consider why they would do such... start with how you ask questions and then go with how you obviously are too lazy to properly punctuate and capitalize words as was taught in elementary school when it comes to language and the art of communicating effectively with others and in so doing, showing a hint of maturity, respect and even a hint of intelligence.

Do know that going to another forum won't save you from dealing with someone like me... I tend to belong to most of the more noted forums and even several of the lesser known. But if you're just a magician wanting to catch the latest wave in trendy things and you don't mind black market (stolen) materials there's always the Magic Cafe

ok well then.even though you might not think i have been very clear,here is what im looking for:



a second phase for pk touches.the trick seems somewhat incomplete without a second phase (with the presentation i use in my show).i do not wish to change my presentation as i am comfortable with it.

now i know you know what im looking for as you have said "there are many spinoofs/variations".now would you be able to point me in the direction of any of these?you did not help,you patronised me which bothered me a little but my need for a second phase still persists.and if you could help me i would be very greatful.i am sorry if i came accross in anyway ignorant (although i dont see how i was which may be my persisting ignorance).but is there anyway you could still help me out?

A dictionary or some kind of spell checker would be a good starting point.

erfacemcer wrote:a second phase for pk touches.the trick seems somewhat incomplete without a second phase (with the presentation i use in my show).i do not wish to change my presentation as i am comfortable with it.

I see what you mean, and I agree. The original revelation is so profound and yet has such a disjunct with the audience that it leaves them wondering what they've missed sometimes, and because the spectator has her eyes shut, it doesn't feel at all integrated into a common experience. There's a kind of void left that feels like it should be reconciled or completed in some way to make a whole.

erfacemcer wrote:ok well then.even though you might not think i have been very clear,here is what im looking for:



a second phase for pk touches.the trick seems somewhat incomplete without a second phase (with the presentation i use in my show).i do not wish to change my presentation as i am comfortable with it.

now i know you know what im looking for as you have said "there are many spinoofs/variations".now would you be able to point me in the direction of any of these?you did not help,you patronised me which bothered me a little but my need for a second phase still persists.and if you could help me i would be very greatful.i am sorry if i came accross in anyway ignorant (although i dont see how i was which may be my persisting ignorance).but is there anyway you could still help me out?

As I stated, there have been a few special variants shared with people that have "proven their worth" in the business and thus, not available to the general populace... for some reason a handful of folks think I fit that mold along with a couple of others here. One version I'm aware of was composed of four sheets of paper that sold for about $100.00 to roughly 50 people world wide. The ONLY way you or anyone can gain access to such resources is to go out, do the work and prove yourself worthy; as commercialized and over hyped as magic has become, there's still a lot of secrets out there.

I certainly do not believe I'm patronizing you in any way... I have told you (as have others) that you need to grow up a bit rather than acting like the child you seem to be. Rather than allowing your self will to control you, take a look at the people in the world that really are successful doing what you want to do and how they interact and communicate in real life... in short, this is a business and it is conducted as such. Though allowances are made for those who have "limitations" this is likewise based on contribution factors.

What I fear you are trying to say is that you want to find "free" sources but what I'll encourage you to do, in that you apparently know the basic techniques (which have been used in headliner shows for some times now... not bad for something that's "incomplete")... simply play with it and cultivate your own approach for meeting the goals you have in mind. It really is that simple.

Now, if you are wanting to replicate some of the bits seen on TV that involve this effect... well, have fun finding the material... it's not available at any level (though it is disgustingly simple and has been around for a very long time).

It does not where you go on line, if you persist with your "I deserve to know because I'm me" sense of address, you're not going to go to far... you might try coming down to earth a bit

Lord Freddie wrote:A dictionary or some kind of spell checker would be a good starting point.

ok sorry mr.witty remarks if i typed too o's instead of 2 f's.but you have not helped the situation in anyway and if you are taking sides in what you think is an arguement then listen to what was said about maturity a few posts up.I have not been rude and i dont really understand why people are being dismissive

Craig Browning wrote:

erfacemcer wrote:It does not where you go on line, if you persist with your "I deserve to know because I'm me" sense of address, you're not going to go to far... you might try coming down to earth a bit

you have misunderstood me.i have not come accross arogant in anyway.If these methods were not available you should have told me from the beginning.This would be a help.Yes this is a business and im not looking to be famous.I have a good understanding of what i want from magic and any help along the way is appreciated.i actualy asked for help i didnt demand it.You jumped to conclusions and focused on assumptions that were inaccurate.im sorry but acting as if your the god of all magic and belittling a new-comer to this forum has not done either of us any favours.how well u articulate is irrelevent to me

Tomo wrote:I see what you mean, and I agree. The original revelation is so profound and yet has such a disjunct with the audience that it leaves them wondering what they've missed sometimes, and because the spectator has her eyes shut, it doesn't feel at all integrated into a common experience. There's a kind of void left that feels like it should be reconciled or completed in some way to make a whole.

yes this is exactly what im talking about.the spectator with their eyes closed always wants to see whats happened.and if this is perfromed for a small group of people and not an auditorium,its hard to capture the full effect.this is the kind of thing i was looking for:



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7kIEZkfXZA

erfacemcer wrote:

Craig Browning wrote:

erfacemcer wrote:It does not where you go on line, if you persist with your "I deserve to know because I'm me" sense of address, you're not going to go to far... you might try coming down to earth a bit

you have misunderstood me.i have not come accross arogant in anyway.If these methods were not available you should have told me from the beginning.This would be a help.Yes this is a business and im not looking to be famous.I have a good understanding of what i want from magic and any help along the way is appreciated.i actualy asked for help i didnt demand it.You jumped to conclusions and focused on assumptions that were inaccurate.im sorry but acting as if your the god of all magic and belittling a new-comer to this forum has not done either of us any favours.how well u articulate is irrelevent to me

Excuse me... your attitude stinks in that you refuse to see where you are being the muck up. Rather than accept some kindness and suggestions from people you have become more and more angry and demanding.

Now as to the "God of All Magic" line... I've never claimed such but it's not so... I know a heck of a lot more then most but I'm certainly not the top of the game when it comes to a lot of areas in the craft. But what I do know are people... that's where my job lays.

How well folks "articulate" and use PROPER language bothers me only in the fact that I see wasted talent and in this instance a very angry and apparently spoilt child that's used to bullying people to get what he wants... not here and especially not with those that have any kind of insight about what's what in magic. Alienating folks with a sassy mouth and showing off your lethargy via your writing only hurts you... I and a couple of others here were just trying to help you wake up to that truth in that being a "Magician" and most especially a "Mentalist" is supposed to imply wisdom, intellect and grace... I've not seen too much of that coming from you and that's rather sad... especially in that most in this forum will tell you just how generous I can be in helping young people (and a few old fuddy-duddies as well) who are respectful, who do show potential and demeanor rather than expectation.

I really think... given your attitude, you might want to go over to the Magic Bunny or Cafe where they seem to enjoy and tolerate your kind a bit better.

alright i still dont know where i was demanding are even acting like a child by asking these sorts of questions.i just asked not demended and you have misunderstood where i am coming from.when you said "you are obviously new to magic" was i just supposed to say "yes thats right" when im not?i just needed help with that one thing.anyway seeing as nobody can ill give up and look somewhere else.thanks anyway