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by **I.D** » May 6th, '07, 13:10

I think he should try to download the red gaff deck and get it for free :lol:

If he has stole material he should get a concience and go out and buy the things he took to give him a clear head.

might cost him a little more than £36 though..

by **Tomo** » May 6th, '07, 13:36

I.D wrote:might cost him a little more than £36 though..

Indeed. Here's a tally of what he's already admitted to stealing:

Army of 52: $29.95
In a Flash: $25.00
Stigmata: $29.95
Kaos: $24.95
Revolution: $18.95
Ninja 1: $43.95
Ninja 2: $43.95
Kard Klub: $43.95
Inside magic: £39.00

TOTAL: $299.65, approximately: £150

And that's only what he's admitted to...

by **Lord Freddie** » May 6th, '07, 13:37

Citrus wrote:
Lord Freddie wrote:
Mikey.666 wrote:why don't you put it in the bank and save it until you actually KNOW what you want...instead of wasting money on pointless gaff and fancy decks

Hear hear!

Shall I buy Black Tigers or Ghost deck? etc, etc.....
ONLY YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT/NEED!!!

I'm guessing he's about 12 and his granny gave him £36 quid recently...

Your being harsh here, he came for advice, and of course hes a teenager seeing how hes got a set amount of money. £36 can be quite a large sum to some people so theres no need to take the pi*s out of him. Everyone has got to start somewhere.

Defiantly the Ghosts for me theres no better deck, they look amazing and handle perfectly.

So you should get -

x2 Red/Blue Bicycle Deck (Both the same color preferably) - Practice decks.
x2 Ghost Deck - Performance Decks
x1 Royal Road To Card Magic - Book
x1 Expert Card Technique

Save the rest and save up for a ghost gaff deck for when you have learnt a substantial amount learnt from the two books.

It's not a case of extracting the urine. He has started polls asking what he should buy and decided to buy the opposite that he was advised on.
What's the point of consistenly asking for advice when you are going to ignore it?

Shall I buy Red or Blue bikes? etc,etc,

SIN BIN!

by **Citrus** » May 6th, '07, 13:41

Lord Freddie wrote:
Citrus wrote:
Lord Freddie wrote:
Mikey.666 wrote:why don't you put it in the bank and save it until you actually KNOW what you want...instead of wasting money on pointless gaff and fancy decks

Hear hear!

Shall I buy Black Tigers or Ghost deck? etc, etc.....
ONLY YOU KNOW WHAT YOU WANT/NEED!!!

I'm guessing he's about 12 and his granny gave him £36 quid recently...

Your being harsh here, he came for advice, and of course hes a teenager seeing how hes got a set amount of money. £36 can be quite a large sum to some people so theres no need to take the pi*s out of him. Everyone has got to start somewhere.

Defiantly the Ghosts for me theres no better deck, they look amazing and handle perfectly.

So you should get -

x2 Red/Blue Bicycle Deck (Both the same color preferably) - Practice decks.
x2 Ghost Deck - Performance Decks
x1 Royal Road To Card Magic - Book
x1 Expert Card Technique

Save the rest and save up for a ghost gaff deck for when you have learnt a substantial amount learnt from the two books.

It's not a case of extracting the urine. He has started polls asking what he should buy and decided to buy the opposite that he was advised on.
What's the point of consistenly asking for advice when you are going to ignore it?

Shall I buy Red or Blue bikes? etc,etc,

SIN BIN!

I see your point, i posted that before i read his SinBined post.

by **Lord Freddie** » May 6th, '07, 14:28

Thanks. I know that to someone like this we'd all recommend the Royal Road and some bikes, but these kind of people will just ignore that advice and watch free youtube explanations, buy gimmicked, no effort decks and expect to be the next David Blaine.
I'm all for giving help to people that seriously want to learn magic, but 16 year olds who want to go to school the next day and be "a magician" without spending any money, stealing other people's hard work and have no intention of putting any time learning things of value or the fundamental principles of magic deserve short shrift.

by **Citrus** » May 6th, '07, 14:54

Lord Freddie wrote:Thanks. I know that to someone like this we'd all recommend the Royal Road and some bikes, but these kind of people will just ignore that advice and watch free youtube explanations, buy gimmicked, no effort decks and expect to be the next David Blaine.
I'm all for giving help to people that seriously want to learn magic, but 16 year olds who want to go to school the next day and be "a magician" without spending any money, stealing other people's hard work and have no intention of putting any time learning things of value or the fundamental principles of magic deserve short shrift.

Very well put, and i could agree more.

by **Lord Freddie** » May 6th, '07, 15:03

Plus, even if he did get RRTCM, he's no doubt expect to be peforming the effects and sleights five minutes after he'd read them. The kind of people that don't perfect their effect before peforming them are far worse than youtube for exposing magic.
Just imagine the patter too!!!

Don't worry, a bungled d/l, ridicule from his classmates and it's then on to another hobby, one that requires less study and practice. Like collecting Spongebob DVD's.

by **Beardy** » May 6th, '07, 15:39

Lord Freddie wrote:it's then on to another hobby, one that requires less study and practice. Like collecting Spongebob DVD's.

i do that........

:lol:

by **Lord Freddie** » May 6th, '07, 16:02

Blapsing_Beard wrote:
Lord Freddie wrote:it's then on to another hobby, one that requires less study and practice. Like collecting Spongebob DVD's.

i do that........

How many ya got?

by **Beardy** » May 6th, '07, 16:08

including doubles of the dvds? im such a fan (of cards - bah dum chish!)

by **Lord Freddie** » May 6th, '07, 16:46

Give it a month and we'll have a poll asking which series he should by next.
I don't know. It's really disheartening when people just don't want to put time and effort into learning anything and want to rely on gimmicks.
The telling time will come when someone says "You're a magician - show us something!" and hands him a pack or normal cards. Without his gimmicks, he'll have to run a mile, ruining any reputation as a magicain he may have scraped together in the process.

by **Mikey.666** » May 6th, '07, 17:06

Lord Freddie wrote: 16 year olds who want to go to school the next day and be "a magician" without spending any money, stealing other people's hard work and have no intention of putting any time learning things of value or the fundamental principles of magic deserve short shrift.

hey hey! don't genrelise (sp?) now

by **Lord Freddie** » May 6th, '07, 17:30

Mikey.666 wrote:
Lord Freddie wrote: 16 year olds who want to go to school the next day and be "a magician" without spending any money, stealing other people's hard work and have no intention of putting any time learning things of value or the fundamental principles of magic deserve short shrift.

hey hey! don't genrelise (sp?) now

I wasn't saying all. Just most.

by **monker59** » May 6th, '07, 17:50

Yeah, I'm sixteen and I read RRTCM on Sunday instead of the Bible. :wink:

by **Lord Freddie** » May 6th, '07, 18:44

monker59 wrote:Yeah, I'm sixteen and I read RRTCM on Sunday instead of the Bible.

Good boy!

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