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Ah... Memories.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr26N2sGUxs

I do not approve of these mosquito ridden magic camps full of horrible 10 year old urchins doing the linking rings and the cups and balls and putting out tricks for the magic community like our child genius member Michael.

I informed Magic Mike who runs the awful place of my opinion a few days ago. He did not seem to share it for some reason. He did reveal however that fully 80% of the brats are not doing magic 5 years later. Instead they are coming up to me when I am selling svengali decks saying "I know that one. I went to magic camp" I feel like throttling the little b******s.

I may see Magic Mike again tonight and will inform him again that he is spawning thousands of bad magicians and they should bring in compulsory euthanasia for magicians under the age of 14.

He doesn't even make any money out of it. Magic Mike and Greenpeace have a lot in common. They are both non profit organisations. He just does it for the love of it. How terribly odd.

He should hire me as a camp counsellor. I would make sure all the little b******s were drowned in Lake Ontario.

Please tell me that was sarcasm!

Yiou have got to be kidding me! This is the best camp full of respectable professionals who are there to teach us and we are there to learn. How can you say that just befroe seeing Magic Mike? Does he know your thoughts on this?

I am truly shocked by this post, and I have so many nasty thoughts about what you have said that I could probably be banned for saying here. Of course he makes money off the camp! He is charging $1000 a person for God Sake!

Please reply. Are you serious about what you have just said?

I am sorry for coming off so arrogant before, and I have changed my ways. I am not releasing any more material. Just DON'T you say a THING about Magic Camp.

Furthermore, most of us at magic camp have multiple years of experience, even professional experience. We have a kid who can backpalm and entire normal deck! We have kids who own literally 1 ton of magic equipment! We have 15 year old illusionists! We have teenagers that regularly perform that The Magic Castle!

So don't tell me we are a bunch of amateurs looking to learn some simple tricks to show friends. It is a hardcore camp with hardcore teaching and magic. It was the best experience of my life.


Ahh... I feel a bit better now.

Michael Kras

Hmm I find the idea of a magic camp rather strange to be honest. I've always thought of magic as something that is learnt alone, not whored out for the masses. I must admit that the idea alone makes me cringe, as does the first minute of the video (i couldn't watch any more).

It seems to me that this camp is lacking the whole performance side of magic. How can you learn to be a magician by only performing for other magicians?

It is quite a dreadful place full of awful children doing card tricks and yes Michael-I have told Magic Mike this to his face. I am British and we do not indulge in such nonsense in Her Majesty's Brittanic realm of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. To me it verges on exposure worse than the masked magician.

This is why. When the masked magician does his stuff everybody forgets the secrets the very next day. However these dreadful children will have the secrets embedded into their brain for life and when they give up magic as of course they will they will still know the secrets and any time they see a magician they will utter that dreadful North American expression "I know that one" when watching a trick.

No. Children should be seen and not heard. And child magicians should neither be seen nor heard.

Now don't get excited Michael. I am probably going to be your only defender here so it would do you well not to imply that I am mistaken.

Mark.

A warning.

Retract you first post and make a full apology for the comments and swearing.

Failure to do so will result in me and I am sure plenty of others, complaining to, not the mods, but the administrators and owners of the forum.

Show us you are a man by being able to admit you were wrong.
Enough of your personal abuse.

just watched the video all the way through and can now see why the majority of canadians have an "I'm so great " attitude, they learn it at camp, its a bit like fame accadamy on steroids.

its not a teaching method that would catch on on this side of the pond, were to researved for that, still its a way to have fun and learn magic, my mentor would be coughing up nails to here me say that.
if thats how you learnt to perform then I'm not surprised you posted in as many sections as you could to get noticed and get your point across, so i can't blame you for that or for your hollow apologetic demeaner, thats the way you were taught, i'll just say its not the done thing on this forum.

regarding marks comments, its blatently aparent that he hates children and especialy over enthusiastic, magic camp trained children.
he still needs to give you an apology, a private one, and explain himself more clearly and less robustly, even he knows that sort of language is not tolerated here, he may not like your camp ethos but there are better ways of saying it.

mark lewis wrote:It is quite a dreadful place full of awful children doing card tricks and yes Michael-I have told Magic Mike this to his face. I am British and we do not indulge in such nonsense in Her Majesty's Brittanic realm of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland. To me it verges on exposure worse than the masked magician.

yeah, over here, we just have people selling Svengali decks to the general public in department stores.

TheGurkha wrote:yeah, over here, we just have people selling Svengali decks to the general public in department stores.

Shhhhh!!

....I think that's how Mark makes his living

I do not approve of people selling svengali decks in department stores either and in my more wicked and vicious days I would employ secret techniques to get them thrown out on their ear.

The rather silly people who wish to "complain" like this Darrell personage have a track record of getting excited over nothing. It should also be noted that it ill behooves these people to make a fuss when they have been quite active in tearing the Michael child to pieces and I seem to have been the only one to defend him.

There is nothing whatever to stop the moderators deleting the word in question if they want to. However it should be noted that I personally swear a lot less than many of the less articulate here of which there are of course many.

However I would point out that "b*****" is NOT a swear word. It merely means illegitimate child born out of wedlock. I am quite sure that every single magic camp member fits this description apart from Michael who seems a nice enthusiastic young man. As for giving an apology to him or to anyone else I should point out that I am MARK LEWIS and you all have more chance of being struck by lighting. Furthermore I look forward to this fate befalling all my detractors as well as inhabitants of magic camps.

As for private message to the urchin in question it won't be necessary since sooner or later he will meet me in person and I dare say he will learn a lot more from me than he will at the magic camp.

They do have noted teachers up there to educate the urchins who do not deserve to be educated. Joshua Jay has been up there as has Johnny Ace Palmer, Lee Asher and others. They get paid nothing and it baffles me why they would want to stay in those dreadfully uncomfortable cabins full of mosquitos for no money exposing the secrets of magic to kids who come up to me saying "I know that one. I went to magic camp" when I happen to come across them when out entertaining for money or selling svengali decks.

It is not true that I do not like children. I had one for breakfast this morning.

I would point out that "b*****" is NOT a swear word. It merely means illegitimate child born out of wedlock.

true but you also have fore unlawfull carnal knowledge of but I'm prety sure if i started saying f*%%$ i'd get a few pm's

i hope you do meet up soon it will certainly be an education on both sides asuming you survive the camp fire singsong.

I've been waiting for that response from Mark and it didn't disappoint.

i think Mark is kept on the boards for comedy value alone. his input in every thread iv seen him post in, is that of a cross between the Hecklers from the Muppets, and a disgruntled Vulcan, using long words where unnecessary, to give the impression that he is better educated than he really is.

I couldn't care less how many Svengali decks you sell in a week, the more you go on about it, the more i think of how well internet shopping is going these days. the insulting for no reason other than you seem to 'get off' on it, however, is not really needed here.

You have a lot in common with Mr Kras, you both prefer gimmicks over true SOH. (sense of humor? Sleight of hand? i what ever you take it as, i dont think you have the ability of either.)


oh, and why do you keep using the word 'personage' it means 'person of distinction', which is ok, until you read the sentence after... 'person' is fine enough.