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The time has certianly come and gone where Mark Lewis' continued hijacking of threads and stereotyping of the forum's members is anything other than the most ridiculous lack of action ever by the Moderators here on TM. The majority of his posts are provcative, unconstructive and downright rude, yet he is allowed to stay simply because he is apparently a 'respected magician'. He constantly spoils perfectly sensible threads with his unnecessary ranting and still the moderators do nothing; saying that his insults are intended humorously and that other members are taking him too seriously. Furthermore, these insulting posts are used as a medium for blatant self-promotion, even though, from what I can see, he contributes little to disucssions here.
Other members are told that 'if they're going to be insulted then they probably shouldn't be reading his posts' and 'they're only intended humorously' but I, for one, believe that his actions should be stopped.
The forum is intended to be a place where members can discuss magic-related topics without fairly and therefore they shouldn't have to worry about being continually patronized by Mr. Lewis, especially not without being able to defend themselves in public for fear that the thread will be locked. He has already been banned from many other forums but still the TM moderators allow his posts and don't prevent the rest of us from his constant ridicule (in fairness, neither do they defend him. That, however, is besides the point).

So, my question is this; Should Mark Lewis be banned from this forum?

I would propose to the moderators that voting is opened for 24 hours, and the majority vote (either yes or no) wins. If yes, he's kicked. If no, he's not.
I would imagine that the moderator reading this thread is already red with anger at the vary idea of this, and is currently holding their mouse over the 'delete' button. To this I would simply say: If this post is deleted then my point is proved. Freedom of speech should be provided on this and every other forum, and if it doesn't exist, along with the right to vote on the existance of every member fairly, then it's not worth being here.
I would urge the moderators not to delete this thread, the rest of you to make the right decision for you, and Mr. Lewis to rethink his attitude and apologise (although the latter I think will never happen).

Goodbye.

stop talking cr@p - mark lewis has a sense of humour. similar to seiges in fact - and mine - you either get it, or you dont. i get it, so does seige.

but beneath his humour and persona he does help people a hell of a lot with his posts, his wisdom, his experience...and regularly gives me a giggle.

so shut up mate - you are talking bull

your mouth is being like my ar$e.....full of $hite

Wow Chris. Be nice!

I get your point, his humour is an aquired taste, but your post couples with the moderator's behavious suggests that poeple should either live with it or leave. Hence my post.

The irony is, of course, that Mark's behaviuor has indirectly caused yet another ruined post.

Personally, I think that it is you that should be banned.

To come onto TM with the intention to raise support to get a member banned is extremely bad form and worse that Mark Lewis has posted in my opinion.

If you are a regular TM member and have created a new log on from which to hide behind and protect your true user identity then I think that this is also very bad form.

Mark Lewis has a sense of humour. I agree that not everyone understands it or likes it but that isn't a reason to supress free speach but his posts are extremely well written which in itself makes them pleasurable to read.

The people that Mark attacks, often deserve what they get.

The irony is, of course, that Mark's behaviuor has indirectly caused yet another ruined post.

Most of the posts recently have been ruined because of who created them and the bland subject matter that has nothing to do with the reason that this forum exists. I suspect, that because of the grammar and it's misuse that the creator of this post is in fact a TM member in disguise.

I deserved being called a b*****, urchin, and a brat???


He was rude. He insulted someone from a desolate village for his lack of good grammar!

Michael, he has a good point. Rev. Lewis has provided many with insight. He referred me to a hundred year old, obscure book that taught me exactly what I wanted.

I personally don't see how 'You are an awful illiterate child with the brain of a pea. ' is very funny. rvoice is a member located in an African village so to insult him (or other members) for their spelling doesn't seem terribly nice.
Personally, I have no interest in this forum but I would certainly like to see Mark Lewis banned.

People shouldn't be 'getting' anything other than Mark's own opinon on the relative topic here, and I very much doubt if anyone here ever deserves the kind of riducle which he posts.

He is a Reverend????? How can a Reverend be so rude and blatant?

Michael.

You've been told by a Mod that he didn't post these things on TM and that it was you that brought these issues here from another forum. A Previous post also explained that the language used was a generalisation and that it was not you that was being called a b******

I would suggest that you give TM a break for a couple of weeks and then come back with a new attitude, now that you've hit an average of 20 posts per day!

Try MSN chat or similar.

Don't worry about me... I am feeling much better. Reverend Lewis is an insightful person, just sometimes puts things in a way that makes people angry and causes controversy. But Tophatman is also correct, and if this thread is deleted, his point is proven.

dat8962 wrote:

The irony is, of course, that Mark's behaviuor has indirectly caused yet another ruined post.

Most of the posts recently have been ruined because of who created them and the bland subject matter that has nothing to do with the reason that this forum exists. I suspect, that because of the grammar and it's misuse that the creator of this post is in fact a TM member in disguise.

It's not who you think, Dat. I am sure the mods will track my ip address anyway, so it's fairly irrelivant.
I am, however, worried about where exactly the bad grammar in my post is. Perhaps you'd care to enlighten me?
'behaviuor' is, however, a typo and not a grammatical error.

Everyone seems to have gone slightly mental of late. Talk Magic seems to have been turned into a disfunctional Jerry Springer-esque charade.
Its all so sad

Maybe its the change in the weather

I seem think that maybe if this trend continues then one or more of the mods may just decide to pack it all in as it is too much hassle for them and the fun has gone out of it.
I for one wouldn't blame them as all this is quite frankly getting me down. May TM continue to be a friendly helpful and insightful place.

I'm not one for religious texts but 'turning the other cheek' seems to be good advice to me.

Tophatman wrote:Personally, I have no interest in this forum but I would certainly like to see Mark Lewis banned.

This is precisely why your post is entirely worthless. On top of which, no matter how hard people push, TM is not a democracy, so polls such as this will never have any bearing on the policy or rules of the forum.

Also, the very idea that your point would be proven by the deletion of this thread is absurd; if I were to delete it it would be because it is inappropriate, not because I think that the content is dangerous.

Tophatman wrote:Freedom of speech should be provided on this and every other forum, and if it doesn't exist, along with the right to vote on the existance of every member fairly, then it's not worth being here.

Fair enough, and since there have, so far, been six contributors to this thread, three of whom (including myself) seem to be of the opinion that it is you who should be banned, two have not expressed an opinion, and the final one is yourself (clearly you cannot vote on the propostion of your own ban) leads to the conclusion that the first and final vote over a banning has been carried.

[edit; ok, make that seven]

Not that that's the way we do things. I've had enough of this already tonight; thread locked and left on display so the world can see the calibre of pillock that we seem to be attracting at the moment.