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dat8962 wrote:

He may be a bit over enthusiastic but at least he is passionate about the art.

Lindz

This may well be the case but it's not reflected too well in his post history. Very few of the posts made to date contribute in any great depth to the discussion of magic.

I think that most TM members are pretty tollerant but this is now reaching that point where if polite advice is ignored then some may feel that a more direct and blunt approach is needed which may offend. That would be a shame.

Absolutely Dat alot of his posts are non magic related and quite annoying at times but the lad is trying. Also it gets right up my nose when someone saying his is a stupid post when the person in question also makes post after post which alot of he's aswell are non magic related.

I am begging a mod to please lock this thread. Is there anyone out there? Helloooo??

I agree with you Lindz and we're sandwiching an example!

Hopefully this thread is turning itself into a reasonable debate and those who are the most guilty of this will take note of how to take part in a debate, thread or whatever, in a constructive way.

I am reminded of a past situation where a number of business men were in a room to liosten to a presentation. I was taken along by my boss at the time and there were a number of people who just asked the most bizare questions, some of which had already been answered during the presentation. Those who spoke for the sake of speaking lost a lot of credibility in the eyes of the others present, and by the person giving the presentation.

The morale, as my boss said to me was, "think before you open your mouth and if you haven't got anything worthwhile to say, then you're much better off keeping quiet".

In my career as an archery instructor for 11- to 18-year-olds (I've been doing it for seven summers, ten weeks a year, so I've got some decent experience), I've found that the best approach to criticism is not only "wow, you're so amazing!" but also correcting some bad habits in a positive way. For instance, "Don't do that" isn't a good way to frame things while "Try doing this instead" is better. 100% agreement with someone will get you nowhere, though pointing out some flaws and making suggestions on how to correct them will usually get individuals (children and adults alike) to be more partial to your side of the argument/debate/discussion/whatever.

In some cases, though, you get a socially inept blockhead that doesn't understand that his c*** (not the best) stinks, too, and you wind up going through the same motions, day in and day out. They're the ones we stuff in a burlap sack and flog them with sticks until they cry "Uncle!" Well, not really, but I've got an active imagination

So can we cut the second grade antics and make some positive suggestions for a change? Pink and fluffy, people... Pink and fluffy.

Ciao,
Rob