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I never said I didn';t have any money? Where do you think you saw me say it? Do you have a link?

This is the first time that I've seen a TM member hire an administrator to find what he said in his own posts. I can understand it, with there being so many and I hope that you like your new job Lawrence

cessna wrote:

Michael Kras wrote:Hello,
This magician organizes many lecture tours for magic's top names.

I think he is probably teaching you a lesson.

If he is who you say he is then i doubt you will be able to stump him.

I'm sure he will just say to you come back when you think you are good and ready and not take money off a 14 year old.

I AM ready! I have real world knowledge and skills I have been practicing for seven years. There is something out there that can fool me, and someone like him.

Judging by all of your videos (which is really the only accurate way to judge) I don't think you're ready. Real world experience? Like that ONE TIME you made money at a restaurant? Mike, you have potential, but you're no pro yet.

Thank you for your kind words. I do kids parties and adult shows, and have been for three years. What I said isn't a lie.

Michael Kras wrote:I AM ready! I have real world knowledge and skills I have been practicing for seven years...

Dear, oh dear.

7 years of practice, from the age of 7 to 14, is like a months practice, compared to 7 years of practice from the age of 18 to 25. Don't even try to fool yourself or others, that a 7 or 8 year old can "train" like a professional magician.
Kids can "be trained" to do all kinds of things, but then they need to practice 6 days a week for at least 10 hours a day. And they need a "master" or a trainer all the time. I don't think that is the fact in your case?

Please muffle your ego and trim down your postings!
You are becoming annoying.

Ego muffled, posts less frequent. Got it

No worries!

and how many of us believe him?
I might just go live over at the bunny!

I've been in magic for 30yrs, professiomal for 7 and I still get fooled. Michael, I think you are fooling yourself!

Got 2 tricks for you that are FULL proff.

1. Pull a coin out his ear

2. ID do it then have ready in your hand some pepper or something and throw it in his eyes, and when hes blind for a few seconds, switch the deck.

I think ill be having a share of the $250

Kras, why do you think that you, a fourteen old magician who has very little experience, could fool a magician is older than you and more experienced? It's a true David and Goliath situation. If you do manage to fool him, I'm sure it will be Bible-worthy as well.

*plug plug time for a blatent plug and self advertising*

hows about evauation - signed card through window?

I hear that is quite a good effect, that is known to very few magicians

Blapsing_Beard wrote:*plug plug time for a blatent plug and self advertising*

hows about evauation - signed card through window?

I hear that is quite a good effect, that is known to very few magicians

BY GUM HE'S RIGHT!

A very very good effect by the file posted. Do i get a sellers fee?

He is right though if you wish to do this you need to find something very new and not at all widely known

Kras - why not just come up with a new effect yourself? don't get it...then you'll control when the dirty work is done surely?

Why do my eyes go RED whenever I see a post with the words

Michael Kras

as a signature

Michael.. when people tell you to stop posting so much, or to cut down on the spam.. what makes you think that a mere

Ok.. its been done. no more frequent postings. Thank You

Michael Kras

will cut the mustard. We KNOW you wont cut down because your reply is a contradiction in itself.

Child prodigy or not.. you are beginning ( or have been for bloody ages ) to do mine and everyone else's bloody head in.

A wager with a bloke is not the way to go.. not for money. Even a little banter as a joke can turn ugly and a 14 yr old kid even in this day and age cant really be all that free to let money go!!

Lets get some things straight...

You are NOT a professional Magician
You do NOT make the money you say you do
You do NOT give lectures ( unless they are to kids younger than you in a garden tent with bottles of sunkist and haribo's handed out by your parents )
You are NOT proficient in sleight of hand
You are NOT going to fool a magician with an effect that you have not created yet
You are NOT going to fool a professional magician with a routine of anyone else's that you aint practiced yet
You are NOT going to fool a professional magician.. full stop
You are NOT Jay Sankey

Now thats a whole lot of NOTS.. If you can undo these NOTS, then there is your routine that will blow him away.. an maybe us too!!

I for one echo the comments made by ID (bet that surprised a few) . Mr kras when you think about it this chap has entered a wager with you lets face it he could have said $1000 or what ever he wanted you wont beat him. I would also be very weary of entering a wager with a man called Magic Mike.

Ok you are in the linking ring and very well done to you I probably will never be or ID I think he would agree with me there. And no I am not jealous the very best of British to you. But all of the not’s that ID has made I for one totally agree with. Apart from the you don’t give lectures you have if you are speaking the truth lectured at your magic club. All though I have not had Sunkist in years.

Now this is not a personal attack I just want to nudge you in the right direction. Yes you have a raw talent but its very raw it needs to cultured and nurtured in a way. And correct me if I am wrong here and don’t take this the wrong way do you have any friends? I don’t mean this in a bad way I mean socialise more and meet people you will understand people more and become a better magician.

Every one on this forum and others have told you , you have a raw talent but I feel you either have a inadequacy or was bullied in a way to make you want to impress. Or have what we have over here called “pushy parents” if this is the case you must tell them to stop and you will find your own path.

I think magic Mike is trying to teach you a lesson that you are not as good as you think you are. And I for one hope you lose your money this shall teach you two things I hope. Number 1 that a hard learnt lesson is often the best. And 2 the value of money for when you understand that you will be well on your way to show business. Now you will post with something like “god man that is hurtful” but if you have been in show business for 7 years you should know that it is a hurtful industry from the village hall right up to the Hollywood. I have a fear that these words will fall on deaf ears.

You have talent but not enough for the ego you have my man. Sit , reflect and become a decent magician.