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Hi, ive been trying to do the trick whereby Derren looks at amount of buttons placed on a tray and is able to tell how many are there in a matter of seconds, ive been trying it with 10p's, so far ive being doing sound reading at the start, well as best i can, then trying to form an impression of the outline, ive got it right once and others have usually been within 5-6 right, but it feels a lot like guesswork, just wondering if anyone had any tips/advice, not sure if anyone out there performs anything such as this?

I don't really know how big UK 10p coins are, but if they're anything like US dimes, use bigger objects. I tried it at one time with buttons and started from an estimate of how many buttons would fit in a handful, counted the handfuls, and determined if they sounded bigger or smaller than average. Men and women have different sized hands, so you need to take that into consideration. Without any "help," you're really not going to get much more accurate unless you can legitimately count very quickly. I started counting by fives, which increased my accuracy but took a little longer.

Then again, there are mechanical and electronic ways to do something like that, but going into it any further would be exposure...

Rob

Rob, a 10 p is only slightly smaller in diameter than a US half dollar.

Mike.

Michael Jay wrote:Rob, a 10 p is only slightly smaller in diameter than a US half dollar.

Mike.

Well, actually, the OLD style 10p is a bit smaller than a half.

The new UK 10p is more like the size of a US quarter.

seige wrote:

Michael Jay wrote:Rob, a 10 p is only slightly smaller in diameter than a US half dollar.

Mike.

Well, actually, the OLD style 10p is a bit smaller than a half.

The new UK 10p is more like the size of a US quarter.

Actually they aint that new now about 10 years old if i remember. I like the old 10ps the two shilling ones. And ziggy do you get the specy to smack ye one.

Isn't it a lot easier to count what's missing rather than what's there?

Just be observant next time you take the contents of your piggy bank to the bank.

Markdini wrote:

seige wrote:

Michael Jay wrote:Rob, a 10 p is only slightly smaller in diameter than a US half dollar.

Mike.

Well, actually, the OLD style 10p is a bit smaller than a half.

The new UK 10p is more like the size of a US quarter.

Actually they aint that new now about 10 years old if i remember. I like the old 10ps the two shilling ones. And ziggy do you get the specy to smack ye one.

Haha no not yet, tho i might start, imk sure it would please quite a few people

RobLaughter wrote:I don't really know how big UK 10p coins are, but if they're anything like US dimes, use bigger objects. I tried it at one time with buttons and started from an estimate of how many buttons would fit in a handful, counted the handfuls, and determined if they sounded bigger or smaller than average. Men and women have different sized hands, so you need to take that into consideration. Without any "help," you're really not going to get much more accurate unless you can legitimately count very quickly. I started counting by fives, which increased my accuracy but took a little longer.

Then again, there are mechanical and electronic ways to do something like that, but going into it any further would be exposure...

Rob

Cheers rob, good advice, espaecially the counting handfulls bit!

Have you watched the clips of it from the TV show and the Something Wicked... tour? Because there was some adjustment that went on to the final number which is relevant.

Also you need to do it with coloured items not coins, if you want to use the method I believe he uses.

Neil wrote:Have you watched the clips of it from the TV show and the Something Wicked... tour? Because there was some adjustment that went on to the final number which is relevant.

Also you need to do it with coloured items not coins, if you want to use the method I believe he uses.

I saw this last night and yeah i do think the colour is relevant, and the first thing he asks the woman is to see her hands.....

hey there...lets not try and deconstruct someone else's effect eh?!

you wouldnt appreciate it would you...

i understand it's tempting, but even so...