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oh my gosh, did anyone see this act, it was completely wrong.
he was doing a psychic surgery effect but it looked so so bad and was really hacked off when he got booed of stage.
honestly, some magicians do give other magic guys and girls a bad name!!

Yeah, I saw it and I agree. It was totally the wrong act and I think that the judges also summed it up fairly well.

There was no magic or illusion whatsoever - just a person on a table with a sheet draped over it from which he proceeded to pull out organs. We didn't even see the whole of the table and he just put his hands under the sheet and that was it. You just knew that he was going to have a liver and heart but the rubber chicken was just naff.

I noted that they are already asking for entrants for next years series. Would it be a good thing if they just banned magicians? It may save us the embarresment.

didn't you know everyone has a ruber chicken in them!!!
i swear that so called magician wanted to really hurt the judges tho!! lol
it was rubbish and no thought went into the act
he really should of pretended to pull out intestines and do fibre optics!! that would of been so great

I'm not sure why this year's batch of magicians have been so bad. They managed to have some decent singers, and even some break-dancers, but no decent magi. Very odd.

I think a mind reading act would have worked well. Reveal all the objects in Simon's pockets, hypnotise Amanda, that kind of thing. Surely it's not beyond the reals of magic to do something impressive on a stage these days?

I'm sure that they took a lot of time to plan but didn't want to so much entertain as to shock. I think that they totally underestimated the reaction of the audience and as soon as they started booing they were out.

Antagonising the audience with hand gestures etc was bad form too and they should have been more gracious in their defeat.

I'm sure that there were probably just as many mind readers and mentalists in the early rounds but perhaps we should assume that they also weren't up to the mark with their material. Was it a case of too many trying to make their close up work fit to a stage environment?

Well, I think the idea behind Dr Gore is quite good. I've never seen anything like it. However, the execution of the character and the routines themselves were basically c*** (not the best). If he planned out his routines better, made it a bit funnier and took acting lessons for dummies I think it could be a pretty good show.

To me, their act was people in their late 30's who hadn't grown up properly & still thought they were teenage goths, ars**g about with fake entrails.
On a show like that, with such a small time to impress, you've got to get right into it & use your best material. They fumbled around with an act that was unoriginal and unentertaining.


Prats.

I think the only way to get through this is to use Ant and Dec as specs and get the audience and judges to focus on their reaction to some quick tricks. Of course, on the night, you'd probably have to ask Queen Betty to think of a card instead. What's the protocol for that?

What's the protocol for that?

Your majesty - I see that you've selected the King of Hearts - any relation?

themagicwand wrote:I think a mind reading act would have worked well. Reveal all the objects in Simon's pockets, hypnotise Amanda, that kind of thing. Surely it's not beyond the reals of magic to do something impressive on a stage these days?

I'd have thought mentalism would have been about the worst type of magic to do. It would be fine if you had access to the hosts/judges beforehand; you could theoretically work miracles, but from the tiny bit I saw, I couldn't imagine them being that helpful (especially as Simon Cowell apparently hates magicians).

Personally, I'd have thought something fast, punchy and visual would do better in a format like that, where you have to make a big (and good) impression quickly. Silk fountain, producing bowls of water, that sort of thing.

Amanda called him "Dr cheese" and she was right the woman with the red mohican and too much eye liner was horribly unattractive

Hmmm. Have A&D walk on, go to shake hands with one of them, straight into an Erikson handshake induction. Take him deeper and deeper and mess about with him, then suggest that the other can control his actions. That should be good for a few gasps from the audience. The only trouble is that Cowell would vote you off immediately on the principle that he doesn't like not being in full control.

Tomo wrote:Hmmm. Have A&D walk on, go to shake hands with one of them, straight into an Erikson handshake induction. Take him deeper and deeper and mess about with him, then suggest that the other can control his actions. That should be good for a few gasps from the audience. The only trouble is that Cowell would vote you off immediately on the principle that he doesn't like not being in full control.

The only explanation I can find for the magicians on BGT being so bad is that anything that bordered on hypnotism, mind control, or mind reading was strictly banned. After all, even Equity won't insure you for a hypnotism act so I guess the production company probably got a bit twitchy about it all. Hence the embarassing waistcoats, bow ties, and routines.

themagicwand wrote:The only explanation I can find for the magicians on BGT being so bad is that anything that bordered on hypnotism, mind control, or mind reading was strictly banned. After all, even Equity won't insure you for a hypnotism act so I guess the production company probably got a bit twitchy about it all. Hence the embarassing waistcoats, bow ties, and routines.

I suppose that went for anything that looks like hypnotism, too. So, we're stuck with a bunch of sparkly dove worriers. That's pretty glum to say the least.

How about an entire audience cold read? Tell them about themselves en masse, type of thing and get feedback via a show of applause from different sections of the audience. Show them how predictable they are.

Tomo wrote:I suppose that went for anything that looks like hypnotism, too. So, we're stuck with a bunch of sparkly dove worriers. That's pretty glum to say the least.

It would be very interesting to find out. After all, why were there no hypnotists at all - even in the auditions?

Any TalkMagic peeps try to do a mind reading type act only to be told they couldn't? I'd love to hear.