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what iare these tricks called?

Postby nam_ » Jun 23rd, '07, 08:23



hi, someone used these tricks on me once and its great.. but i would like to know whats it called and how to do it. Can you please help me?

trick 1.

i picked a card from a deck, then place it back in the deck. The magician then throws all the cards on the ground and picks up from the ground, my card.

trick 2.

i again picked a card from a deck then put it back in the deck. the magician then shuffles the cards then tells me to flick the cards from his hands, when i did it i flicked all the cards from the decks (20 cards falls down each time) then 1 card remains in his hands, and thats my card.

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Postby dat8962 » Jun 23rd, '07, 08:46

Nam

If you had read the rules of this forum you will have learnt that this is NOT a forum where we expose how tricks are done. Asking for secrets is the quickest way to get yourself banned.

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Re: what iare these tricks called?

Postby greedoniz » Jun 23rd, '07, 09:06

nam_ wrote:trick 1.

i picked a card from a deck, then place it back in the deck. The magician then throws all the cards on the ground and picks up from the ground, my card.



I think you'll find this is a variation of the classic '52 card pick up'. now this effect is rare in the magic world as it can only be shown visually as the method is too hard to describe.
So, next time you meet a magician or indeed anyone good with cards say you wish to be shown how to do '52 card pick up' and I'm sure they'll help you out

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Postby chryles » Jun 23rd, '07, 11:06

have a look on amazon for a book called 'royal road to card magic'. it's got everything you need and more in there.

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Re: what iare these tricks called?

Postby Josh Clarke » Jun 24th, '07, 03:37

nam_ wrote:trick 2.

i again picked a card from a deck then put it back in the deck. the magician then shuffles the cards then tells me to flick the cards from his hands, when i did it i flicked all the cards from the decks (20 cards falls down each time) then 1 card remains in his hands, and thats my card.


Ok, there's 52 cards in a deck. If 20 cards fall down each time and then he has 1 card left, the only possible amount of cards are 21, 41, 61 ... etc.

Doesn't work mathematically. Unless he had more than one deck .....

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Postby Craig Browning » Jun 24th, '07, 05:58

Ok... For starters the "Slap" routine is a golden oldie and you'll find it explained in several "beginners" books on card effects. I'm not positive what they first effect was, your description didn't seem to make much sense to me but at the same time, what I believe you saw is also a very basic and common effect for which there are numerous methods; it is related to bits such as Card on Glass or Card on Ceiling.

Now, this last comment isn't for you as much as it is for those that posted... from what I could get in the original post nam_ wasn't asking for methods, just the names to the effects. I'd be willing to be that he was willing to do the footwork and look up the tricks in a proper manner if he had something to work with, like the name or possible names of similar effects.

I do not believe pointing someone to Royal Road is a wise move when it is obvious in their post that they are exceptionally uneducated when it comes to this field. I believe what nam_ needed to hear would be more along the following lines...

Hi nam_ and welcome to the forum. So that we can help you in your quest to learn about magic and in particular card magic, you might want to make an introduction and tell us a bit about yourself; how old you are, what' got you interested in magic, how long you've been studying magic, etc.

As to the tricks you're asking about, it's hard to say which ones you actually saw in that there are many that resemble the descriptions you have offered. They do seem like probable basic card tricks so I'd start by looking at some of the introductory books on general magic and card magic like...
(insert an appropriate list of elementary resources)."

I know how many of us respond to questions similar to nam_'s with a "knee Jerk" type reaction but I think we need to extend credit where it is due as well and in this case, I think our new friend was attempting to do things the right way. :wink:

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Postby themagicwand » Jun 24th, '07, 10:32

Craig Browning wrote:
I know how many of us respond to questions similar to nam_'s with a "knee Jerk" type reaction but I think we need to extend credit where it is due as well and in this case, I think our new friend was attempting to do things the right way. :wink:

Goodness. Craig's gone all laisez-faire on us.

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Postby connor o'connor » Jun 24th, '07, 21:04

Just to say can we have an anti exposure rule in the rules sticky?
(I agree with craig that this is not the intention of the poster of this thread)
There is a mention in the welcome part, but we usualy tell these guys to go read the rules (quite rudely sometimes), and it ain't there. :?

I have only just found the reference myself ( reason as to why I have had to edit this post. The last one I wrote said I could not find it :oops: )

Also if you only read the rules because like me (and I am being honest here) you cant stand reading 20 pages of hello welcome to the best site ever, founded by ...blah...blah....blah... on other pages on the web, you'll skip this bit, go to the rules and just never see it :wink:

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Postby Josh Clarke » Jun 24th, '07, 21:15

connor o'connor I agree with everything you said except one thing. I think we don't expose tricks because we've worked for them and don't want someone to be able to just search some forum and learn it for free. And by free I don't mean just money, but the time and practice we all have put towards our craft. Yeah I'm sure copyright does come into play, but I think that is last reason magicians think of to not expose a trick. Plus most people that are looking for the quick answer just want to know how it's done and never intend to perform it on anyone.

EDIT: Ok connor o'connor edited his message, so this might not make sense now, but I think it's still relevant.

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Postby connor o'connor » Jun 24th, '07, 21:23

appologies to Josh

he got caught between edits. I realised that confusion may occur (as it did) and put it right.

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Postby Mandrake » Jun 25th, '07, 12:13

Just to let y'all know, the rules & regs have been updated to specifcally state:
Please don't ask how tricks are done, it means we're being asked to be giving away other people's secrets which are not ours to divulge.


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Postby Michael Jay » Jun 25th, '07, 15:15

I would like to add a further reason why we don't expose the trick:

Because when you tell someone how it's done, it makes them feel stupid. Generally, the method behind the trick is fairly simple and when someone realizes just how easily that simple, little trick fooled them they feel, well, like a fool.

People, generally, believe that they are smart. If you show them that a plastic thumb (or whatever device) fooled them, they don't find you clever, they find themselves to be stupid.

At least, that's how I see it...

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Postby HenryHoudini » Jun 25th, '07, 16:33

plastic thumbs dont exist

wink wink nudge nudge

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Postby greedoniz » Jun 25th, '07, 16:39

HenryHoudini wrote:plastic thumbs dont exist

wink wink nudge nudge


If that truly is the case then how on earth would Action man catch a lift if hitchiking?

hmmmmm!!

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Postby I.D » Jun 25th, '07, 20:00

greedoniz wrote:
HenryHoudini wrote:plastic thumbs dont exist

wink wink nudge nudge


If that truly is the case then how on earth would Action man catch a lift if hitchiking?

hmmmmm!!


he could stick out his plastic finger!! :wink:

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