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I've been asked to do some dealing for some poker tables a friend of mine wants to run. He's not a player and has not give me a rule set to work to. This will be casino, not tournament, so people will be coming and and coming out.

Is there an official set of rules for this type of play in the UK which I can follow? I don't know what to do with the blinds as the evening progresses, for instance. It's not like there are going to be loads of tables with different levels, just a couple.

I'm not sure about the nitty gritty of side pots and what happens if someone can't make the raise or the blind. I've seen different things happen in different computer implementations. I've also seen one computer system which does not allow an Ace to Five straight.

So, can someone point me at a rule set which is both official and complete.

Cheers

This should help. It's pretty comprehensive. Good luck.
http://www.pokerlistings.com/standard-poker-rules

Generally in a tournament setting the blinds would be raised every hour, or perhaps every half hour, I think.

just make sure you have a straight on the bottom, then bottom deal whenever you get to someone you like


thats what I did the other day

except I got beat up

or just people left the game after my friend said "he dealt the cards from the bottom for me"

Lyncho wrote:Generally in a tournament setting the blinds would be raised every hour, or perhaps every half hour, I think.

That's why I said it was a casino setting.l

Josh Clarke wrote:This should help. It's pretty comprehensive. Good luck.
http://www.pokerlistings.com/standard-poker-rules

Indeed, very so. The rules I can't find are:

1) What happens when someone has less chips that are required to call a raise mid game? Is he automatically all-in and a side pot played? Do the others get to bet in subsequent rounds or are the card all turned over?

2) What happens if someone has not got enough to make the blind? Are they just out? What happens to their small complement of chips?

1. Usually in this circumstance a split pot is called upon. Where by the person who hasn't enough chips to see the raise either pulls out and saves what chips he has left for the next game. Or he can go all in with what he has left. If he goes all in then the person/people betting against him will put the same amount into the pot that this gambler (in that particular round). This pot (a) is then set aside and the rest of the gamblers who have money continue on as normal with a split pot (b). If the gambler with no money left wins the final hand, they take the total chips for pot a. Pot b is then won by the best hand from the other gamblers. If the gambler with no money left does not have the best hand they are out of the game and the person with the best hand takes the chips from both pots.

2. This works the same way as above with a split pot being formed at the beginning of the game.

Hope this helps you, if you don't understand any of the above just let me know and I'll try to explain better.

The split pot I get, it's whether or not the players' cards are shown before all the tabled cards are turned is the bit I don't understand.

In an all-in situation, the cards are show and the rest of the round has not bets. Is this the case with either or the above situations?

Ah right I get you now, sorry.

The short answer is no, the cards are not shown once the pot is split. The person who has went all in waits until the end of the game to show their hand at the same time as everyone else. The other gamblers play on as normal then once it gets to the end of the game, all the hands are shown.

This is for fairness so that the cards shown cannot influence the betting for the rest of the game.

Hopefully I have understood you right this time. If not you'll have to excuse me as its a monday morning and my brain doesn't usually start working until tuesday. I also watched David Blaine last night so my senses are a bit deadened today

So, to check.

If person C has only 10 left and the big blind is 20, he is all in but does not show and plays for 10 time the number of players and the rest of the betting is effectively a side pot.

Yep you've got it, so if player C wins (after all bets are done and everyone shows their hands) they only get their 10 back plus 10 of every player who also bet in that particular round.

The chances of this happening are very slim due to players going all in on previous rounds. A decent player will have made a move a lot earlier than that. But I suppose its good to know these things just in case.

Good luck with it and I'd maybe leave out the fact that your a magician (or hobbyist). People will start blaming you if they're getting beat.

Yes, it's unlikely that someone would have not gone all in on a previous round and be left shy of the blind, but it's possible someone could be reduced to nothing, or at least less than the bet, in a long betting round, and have to go all-in by default. And since it's all-in under the present stake, the cards are not turned over and a side pot is formed. However, if it's exact, then they are necessarily all-in, and the cards are turned over, assuming it's called.

In the event of someone raising the all-in, the cards are not turned unless they are going all-in themselves and it's called.