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by **Magical_Trevor** » Jul 8th, '07, 18:17

LOL, thats the best and worst line ever, its almost too funny to be real - I agree, packet tricks and youtube secrets... and as for the 'you show mea trick' line - 52card pickup anyone?

maybe I'm too bitter - if someone did that to me I would be well annoyed

by **mark lewis** » Jul 8th, '07, 20:17

Welcome to the harsh world of capitalism. And I am afraid that competition is part of that world. No good complaining about it. It will be a lesson for you in the future to guard against such things if you are able to.

You must remember that the manager made a business decision. There may be all sorts of reasons he made it and talent or lack therof may not have been one of them. Price seems to be the obvious factor here but there may be something else for all you know. Perhaps he likes this kid better as a person, or perhaps you came across in a way he didn't like that is nothing to do with your magic. Maybe the waiters didn't like you, maybe you dressed badly, or maybe your magic wasn't as good as you think it was.

I am not saying any of the above is true. I am merely speculating-I haven't seen you work. All you can do is take a close look at yourself and decide if there is another factor at work. Or if you are really such a good friend of the manager try and find out what influenced his decision although you may not get the correct answer.

In other words learn what you can from the experience and move on. Just remember that you are in a tough business. Showbusiness is very competitive and is a dog eat dog world.

I would advise you not to name your other residencies on here. Keep your venues to yourself if you don't want this to happen again.

Dogs eat dogs you know.

by **Sir_Digby_Chicken_Ceaser** » Jul 8th, '07, 20:45

MagicBill wrote:Ha ha, well guys, I've currently got three different weekly residencies in Glasgow and this was supposed to be my fourth (I am not being greedy - honest). Anyways, me and a few friends went into this bar on Friday night to see what was going down...
As soon as I walk in the managers identify me to the £8-an-hour guy so he knows I am a magician. I am not going in to cause trouble or to heckle - I am just an interested, paying customer.
Unsurprisingly, he doesn't come anywhere near me and my friends until one of my friends actually shouted him over. The following conversation happened:

Him: Hi, I hear you're a magician too - show me something (hands me his deck)
Me: No, it's cool - you show us something.
Him: No - you show me something.
Me: I think you're getting paid to entertain, not me.
Him: Fair enough. Who do you like the best - Criss Angel or David Blaine?
Me: (thinking to myself - OMG!) Not overly keen on either of them. How's your night going?
Him: Alright. There aren't many customers in though.
Me: (I look around the large bar and lounge area - it's 6pm on a Friday night and the place is buzzing) Are you kidding?
Him: No, seriously - nobody wants to see anything.
Me: Oh. Very, very rarely do I get any 'nos'. It must be your approach mate. What do you say when you approach a table?
Him: <Mumble, mumble>
Me: It's none of my business, but I am friends with the manager and he told me what you're getting paid. I was pretty shocked to be honest.
Him: I am not doing it for the money. I am doing it to get on telly.
Me: (WHAT?!!!) Oh - ok.

Then he walked away mumbling. I never saw any magic but I did see him getting turned away by several other tables that he approached nearby.
I felt like pulling out my bikes and going over to one of the tables he got a 'no' from then raising the roof with my own stuff!

Anyway, that was that. The guy is way out of his depth.

Going from that i'll give him 3 weeks, tops

by **Michael Jay** » Jul 8th, '07, 20:55

mark lewis wrote:Dogs eat dogs you know.

The original quote is from a Latin proverb which came into English use in the late 18th century - the quote above is a bastardized version (thrown out by cynics and/or the lesser educated, for the most part).

The original quote is:

"Canis caninam non est," which means "Dog will not eat dog."

Mike.

by **mark lewis** » Jul 8th, '07, 21:01

I come from Glasgow myself and I can assure you the natives do not speak Latin. Indeed there are times that cynical sassenachs would say they do not speak English either.

I can assure all and sundry that in the mean streets of capitalist Glasgow dogs DO eat dogs. Ask our young recently deposed restaurant magician if you don't believe me.

by **Michael Jay** » Jul 8th, '07, 21:04

He's a dog, eh?

by **mark lewis** » Jul 9th, '07, 00:54

He used to be until he got eaten. Now however he is becoming a little catty.

by **MagicBill** » Jul 9th, '07, 01:27

Meow!

by **HenryHoudini** » Jul 9th, '07, 02:50

I think Ill leave

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